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Screw this

    • theloniousbones
      Joined: 30.01.2008 Posts: 177
      I've had it with this crap....

      These hands are the best I see all day at the respective tables, and they blow me out $4!! How am I ever going to make money at this SSS garbage? 70% of the time my raise isn't even called, so I win blinds, when I'm called, this happens:

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from (Format: 2+2 Forums)

      Button ($10.20)
      SB ($11.20)
      BB ($5.65)
      UTG ($9.90)
      Hero ($1.60)
      MP1 ($2.20)
      MP2 ($4.90)
      MP3 ($10)
      CO ($8.45)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A:diamond: , T:heart: .
      UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, 4 folds, Button raises to $1.5, 2 folds, UTG folds, Hero raises to $2.1 (All-In), Button calls $0.10.

      Flop: ($3.45) 6:diamond: , 8:diamond: , 4:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($3.45) 7:heart: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($3.45) 2:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $3.95

      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from (Format: 2+2 Forums)

      MP2 ($6.70)
      Hero ($1.75)
      Button ($4.95)
      SB ($13.30)
      BB ($19.40)
      UTG ($6.55)
      UTG+1 ($5)
      MP1 ($1.20)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:diamond: , Q:club: .
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.4, Button raises to $1.45, 2 folds, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $2.15 (All-In), Button calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($3.75) A:diamond: , 8:heart: , K:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($3.75) 9:heart: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($3.75) Q:heart: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $4.15


      Trying to employ this "money making strategy" is pretty freaking expensive.... from now on all I'm going to play is AA. Yay. I get to wait for 3 hours before I can play a hand......
  • 8 replies
    • Puschkin81
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Hi theloniousbones!

      Hand 1 is not played according to the SSS. You should try to work on your game. Post some of your hands in our sample hand boards and participate in the hand discussions. Reread our strategy articles and participate in coachings. This way you will improve your game a lot.

      Good luck at the tables!
    • Dippy19
      Joined: 04.12.2007 Posts: 1,347
      Originally posted by theloniousbones

      from now on all I'm going to play is AA. Yay. I get to wait for 3 hours before I can play a hand......
      That's not going to work, I lost three times in a row with AA last night :P
    • zamwise
      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 4,882
      That's not going to work, I lost three times in a row with AA last night

      Then you have to play even more tightly... play AA only when its suited. ;)

      -- Z --
    • jakes82
      Joined: 14.10.2007 Posts: 14
      If you are going to play the SSS, you at least have to play it correctly. A 10 UG is an insta got what you deserved there. As for the QQ, those are just the breaks, you are never 100% to win a hand preflop, there is always going to be a chance of getting beaten. Even AA looses to smaller pairs 20% of the time.

      Imagine this scenario; there are 100 doors infront of you that you can choose to walk in. On the other side of 80 of them there is a gorgeous woman just waiting for you...but on the other side of 20 of them there are armed terrorists waiting to kill you. you cant back out, you just have to choose one and you run in blind expecting to get laid every time??? I doubt it, there is a 20% chance you are going to die.

      Now in situation where you hold a pair against overcards, the count is now roughly 56 doors with hotties, and 44 doors with crazed killers. How sure are you now that you are in for a good time???

      Just thought I'd offer a different way of looking at it. Sure you are going to win more times then you lose, but know ARE going to lose from time to time.

      Read, learn, improve...good luck at the tables.
    • h3r3tik
      Joined: 14.01.2008 Posts: 33
      "70% of the time my raise isn't even called" my only comment: are you sure you're respecting the rule of picking the table with the highest avarage pot and big stacks? Theoreticaly the purpose of that rule is to ensure you get called!
    • vladnz
      Joined: 17.01.2007 Posts: 1,355
      Hand 1. FOLD you cant play A10 UTG you only play AK AA KK QQ and JJ
      you should reread all the articles and Follow the Starting Hands Chart

      Hand 2 NH
      you are expected to win with Q :club: Q :diamond: pre-flop vs random 79% of the time

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 79.925% 79.63% 00.29% 1670338644 6149538.00 { Q :club: Q :diamond: }
      Hand 1: 20.075% 19.78% 00.29% 414934680 6149538.00 { random }

      p.s hope i made all the calc correct
    • xylere
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      vladnz, this is an equity againts a random hand. On this limit fairly tight range for CO will be somewhat 77+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo - 64% equity
    • ManniXXX
      Joined: 05.09.2007 Posts: 707
      LOL. Everytime somebody sucks out on me from now on, they're getting called a terrorist ;) Best metaphor i've heard in a long time.

      And yeah what everyone else said :) If you're playing Full Tilt I STRONGLY advise working blind stealing into your game, otherwise you'll be reloading too often to be profitable. I also leave the table when it drops under 8 players instead of the guides recommended 7, the players are just too tight. I found both these helped with playing SSS at FT. Gl ;)