[NL20-NL50] NL50 FR - AK, passively played

    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25/$0.50BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      UTG+1 ($14.15)
      UTG+2 ($63.13)
      MP1 ($6.25)
      MP2 ($50.00)
      MP3 ($25.95)
      CO ($39.45)
      Button ($19.75)
      SB ($112.42) (Hero)
      BB ($10.80)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:club: , A:heart:
      1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $2.59, MP1 calls $2.59, MP2 calls $2.59, 3 folds, Hero calls $2.34, 1 folds

      Here I thought about reraising, but giving a second thought about it. I'm OOP, and there are 2 callers to a 5BB raise. So I'd have to reraise to something around $14-$15, and that would build a huge pot, I'd end up playing for stacks and I'm probably slightly behind.

      I may have some FE against small pairs here but I think a call is better, a raise may be slightly +EV, but I think a call is not wrong and reduces variance here.


      Flop: 7:club: , T:diamond: , J:diamond: ( $10.86 )
      Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets $1.00, MP2 calls $1.00, Hero calls $1.00, UTG+2 calls $1.00,

      I got pretty good odds to call here.

      Turn: 2:heart: ( $14.86 )
      Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP1 raises All-In $2.66, MP2 calls $2.66, 2 folds

      I just have a feeling here that I may not have as many outs as it looks like, I think I'm down to 3-4 outs and decided to fold and stay out of trouble.
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      You´re getting the odds to call another 2,66$. I don´t like to play oop, so it still would be 3-bet or fold.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      I reraise all-day here. What is the value of calling in this spot? Lets analyze the situation:

      UTG+1: raises from early, so he may have a good hand. His range is sth. like AQ,AK,TT+
      MP1/MP2: only call - mostly pockets or suited connector like hands

      By raising you typically push out MP1/MP2. If UTG+1 has AA/KK we are behind and it sucks, but against his remaining range we have a coinflip with lot of dead money. Furthermore, your reraise looks so strong that he often folds lower pockets scared that you have AA/KK... The problem is: assume he has aces and you call and the flop comes K72 rainbow. Do you plan to fold to a flop/turn/river bet?
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Well, If he has AA and the flop comes K72 rainbow, I may not get screwed or I may get screwed, I don't know, being a on a dry board is gonna make me think twice about getting my whole stack in there with TPTK, but I'm certainly losing some money. But If I reraise PF and he has AA, I'm also losing some money, but I'm not afraid of AA here.

      And I'm not saying that a reraise is bad, it certainly isn't, but I don't think calling is bad either. Probably less profitable than a raise but with less variance too.
      Am I saying BS here, or do I got a point Thorsten?

      And I was probably tired also, this hand was one of the last in a long session, I stopped playing a few minutes after this one.

      And I know I'm getting pretty good odds to call another $2.66, but although I usually try not to follow feelings, and I usually don't do it, there are exceptions though. I had this strange feeling here that I had very few outs. And I was right, I had only 3 outs. I don't get odds to call with only 3 outs.

      And If I do hit one of my 3 outs I don't think MP2 is calling a bet on the river with a busted FD.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      You are OOP and if you call the pot is 4-handed. I think this is a serious leak as even if you hit TP, you can't be sure to be ahead. In the best case (you hit and your opponents don't hit), you won't get paid.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Yeah, true. You're right. I don't do it, but on this hand I decided to. I was probably tired.