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[NL2-NL10] nl 10 QQ

    • hohoho321
      hohoho321
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 493
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($9.90)
      BB ($10)
      UTG ($10.39)
      CO ($4)
      BTN ($12.47)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:heart:

      UTG raises to $0.35, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

      FLOP ($1.05) 8:heart: 3:spade: 7:diamond:

      Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70, BB calls $0.70

      TURN ($3.15) 8:heart: 3:spade: 7:diamond: 4:diamond:

      Hero bets $1.80, BB calls $1.80, UTG calls $1.80

      RIVER ($8.55) 8:heart: 3:spade: 7:diamond: 4:diamond: 4:club:

      Hero bets $3.50, BB folds, UTG calls $3.50


      I played only few hands with UTG and he seemed to be a regular . BB was unknown .

      So preflop I didn't wan't to stack off with my hand against him , cause the regs on these limits seem to be tighter . I don't want to 3b/fold either .

      So on flop I checked to get a bet from him with the whole of his range , but hmm would he bet the whole of his range against 2 opponents ? I fairly said dont know why I dont raise , maybe not to scare his 99-JJ overpairs .

      On the turn I seek value from them with this stab . I am bet/fold here cause I thought that better hands would push .

      So on river I did one more valuebet / fold


      Do I have to donk flop ?
      Do I have to x/raise flop ?
      Do I have to donk turn ?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello hohoho321,

      The thing is, you don't 3bet preflop but you still go for such a value postflop. Then you could easily just 3bet preflop and go for maximum value than pick such a line.

      Overall I don't like either donk the flop or either donk the turn. And of course Check/Raise is way overplayed as well, just isolating against better hands and he might even fold those few hands what we beat like TT/JJ.

      Rather Call down reevaluate further streets.

      Best regards.
    • hohoho321
      hohoho321
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 493
      Rather Call down reevaluate further streets.


      Ok I would have troubles with the reevaluation .

      If the turn is blank and he bets again - I call . Then river is blank he bets again - I call . Is that ok ?

      If he checkbacks turn I bet any river for value from small overpairs ?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      If the turn is blank and he bets again - I call . Then river is blank he bets again - I call . Is that ok ?

      Yeah, you can still Call it.

      If he checkbacks turn I bet any river for value from small overpairs ?

      Yep. :) But to avoid the Check-back that's usually the reason why I would consider donking at some spot.
    • hohoho321
      hohoho321
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      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 493
      Yep. But to avoid the Check-back that's usually the reason why I would consider donking at some spot.

      Which spot - K on turn ? Is that because he won't bet with his 99-JJ and I want value ?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by hohoho321
      Yep. But to avoid the Check-back that's usually the reason why I would consider donking at some spot.

      Which spot - K on turn ? Is that because he won't bet with his 99-JJ and I want value ?
      He can easily just Check behind his overcard type of hands from which we likely rather try to get value or maybe even some draws.