[Application] cancelled

  • 20 replies
    • thazar
      thazar
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      Joined: 14.09.2009 Posts: 6,561
      Originally posted by mo9jito
      I have read and accepted the staking rules. By posting in this thread, every member acknowledges the same.

      Hi,

      my name is David and due to a necessary cashout because of expenses in RealLife I´m looking for a PART Staking.

      I was a Winning Player in the iPoker Network, but because of better Rakeback deal
      and the possibility to play tracked in order to improve my Pokerstrategy status I want to switch to Betfair.

      What do i want to play?
      5,5 $ DONs (skin = Betfair)




      Volume?
      200 DoNs

      (will be played within a single week)


      Summe?
      200 DONs = 1100 $
      50 % own money -> 550 $ for sale


      10% = 55 $
      20% = 110 $
      50% = 275 $
      100% = 550 $


      Cut:
      80/20 + Stakeback for your favour


      But I´ll receive Rakeback and additional promo winnings.


      Securities:
      -passport scan if requested
      -telephone number
      -mobilphone number



      Informations:
      -Betfair has no Player to Player transfer, therefore the money is needed either on Paypal or on Moneybookers (preferred!)
      -Payout via Paypal, Moneybookers, Pokerstars or Banktransfer
      -min. Buy = 5 %


      Graph (alltime SNG Graph at iPoker) :



      Contact me if you´re interested :)


      Feedback:
      Feedback for mo9jito
      for reference
    • thazar
      thazar
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      Joined: 14.09.2009 Posts: 6,561
      Hi

      I want to say 2 things.

      1st this is one of the best organised 1st time staking request i have seen so far. everything is there

      2nd why would you need 200BI to play DON. I mean even if you plan to play 200, they are very soft and the variance is limited in them. 10BI should be more than enough to complete your project.

      just my opinion

      best regards

      Thazar
    • Tibovw
      Tibovw
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      Joined: 02.05.2010 Posts: 1,994
      Hello ! Nice application idd

      I have a questions about the payout tho .

      80/20 ? So let's say you run this perfectly breakeven and you get $1100 out of this. Does this mean that the stakers get 880$ back ? And if I had 10% ~ 55$ , i now get 88$ ?

      If the answer to the above is positive then i'd like to reserver 20%

      Thx in advance and I hope you can make things clear
      (edit: this can't be right can it? :p)
    • Tibovw
      Tibovw
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      Joined: 02.05.2010 Posts: 1,994
      Question #2:

      Can the payment be made on Stars aswell since the payout is made on stars if requested?
    • sinsas
      sinsas
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      Joined: 22.09.2009 Posts: 380
      you have 100 BI of your own money, why would you need another 100BI when the swings are <10BI

      something smells fishy here
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 813
      Originally posted by sinsas
      you have 100 BI of your own money, why would you need another 100BI when the swings are <10BI

      something smells fishy here
      This...

      and staking in Dons is really bad value... A unknown guy wants 500 dollar to play 5 dollar Dons...

      TS can u show ur balance + graph on mikogo?
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by thazar
      Hi

      I want to say 2 things.

      1st this is one of the best organised 1st time staking request i have seen so far. everything is there

      2nd why would you need 200BI to play DON. I mean even if you plan to play 200, they are very soft and the variance is limited in them. 10BI should be more than enough to complete your project.

      just my opinion

      best regards

      Thazar
      i really appreciate your feedback :)

      I simply didn´t thought about that i won´t need the complete amount... but it´s pretty obvious that you could be right.
      Therefore, I´ve recalculated the opening post.

      But 10 BI would be too dangerous I guess, because i play 4-6 tabling and really need some money to feel comfortable, which is essential to play my A-Game :P
      Additionally, I´m new to the Ongame Network and I may need a few DoNs to get to know the software, the players.

      Originally posted by Tibovw
      Hello ! Nice application idd

      I have a questions about the payout tho .

      80/20 ? So let's say you run this perfectly breakeven and you get $1100 out of this. Does this mean that the stakers get 880$ back ? And if I had 10% ~ 55$ , i now get 88$ ?

      If the answer to the above is positive then i'd like to reserver 20%

      Thx in advance and I hope you can make things clear
      (edit: this can't be right can it? :p)
      well it´s my first staking .... maybe I expressed myself ambiguosly :P

      Of course you´re wrong, because that would be a very, very uninteresting investment for the stakers :D
      If I´d run this breakeven you would get back exactly the amount you invested (stakeback), because the cut is only applied if i´m winning after the 200 games.
      But I´m pretty sure that I´ve got a decent edge against the average player on the 5,5 $ DoNs, because the skill level at Ongame should be nearly the same as on iPoker (both networks full of betting sites :s_love: )

      Originally posted by Tibovw
      Question #2:

      Can the payment be made on Stars aswell since the payout is made on stars if requested?
      the money is really needed on either Paypal or Moneybookers, because I´ve got to deposit on Betfair and I´ve got no need for more money on Stars X(
      I apologise for that.
      I just added it as a payout option, because I´ve got a decent amount of money on Stars.

      But I could need money on FullTiltPoker... maybe someone of you is interested in this way of sending the money :)

      Originally posted by sinsas
      you have 100 BI of your own money, why would you need another 100BI when the swings are <10BI

      something smells fishy here
      I apologise for that mistake I really didn´t thougt about that as explained above.
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by Heffron89
      Originally posted by sinsas
      you have 100 BI of your own money, why would you need another 100BI when the swings are <10BI

      something smells fishy here
      This...

      and staking in Dons is really bad value... A unknown guy wants 500 dollar to play 5 dollar Dons...

      it´s my first staking and I really agree with the replies concerning the needed amount and therefore updated my opening post :)

      But why do you think that staking in DoNs is really bad value?
      I would argue that variance is really much lower than in ordinary SnGs =)
      Additionally, Ongame as well as iPoker consists of several betting sites where many
      recreational players from the sportsbook try themselves on the tables, which should really give me a decent edge.
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 813
      Originally posted by mo9jito
      Originally posted by Heffron89
      Originally posted by sinsas
      you have 100 BI of your own money, why would you need another 100BI when the swings are <10BI

      something smells fishy here
      This...

      and staking in Dons is really bad value... A unknown guy wants 500 dollar to play 5 dollar Dons...

      it´s my first staking and I really agree with the replies concerning the needed amount and therefore updated my opening post :)

      But why do you think that staking in DoNs is really bad value?
      I would argue that variance is really much lower than in ordinary SnGs =)
      Additionally, Ongame as well as iPoker consists of several betting sites where many
      recreational players from the sportsbook try themselves on the tables, which should really give me a decent edge.
      I really don't wanna judge beforehand but I mean first stake and want 500 dollar is alot, back in the days when I was on Chipmeup peopel started at really small and builded their reputation, here it seems like some random can go make a thread for couple hundreds/thousands of dollars and get staked.
    • stevegold87
      stevegold87
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      Joined: 18.06.2009 Posts: 2,640
      Don't worry Heffron89, people here will work to make this place better and this forum is still new :)
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by Heffron89
      ...

      I really don't wanna judge beforehand but I mean first stake and want 500 dollar is alot, back in the days when I was on Chipmeup peopel started at really small and builded their reputation, here it seems like some random can go make a thread for couple hundreds/thousands of dollars and get staked.
      i appreciate your feedback nevertheless :)

      But I´m not looking for a staking for the skystakes and i only want to
      switch the skin. Therefore I´m selling shares in order to be able to start at
      the limit I played DoNs before.
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      duplicate posting, pls delete
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      10 % sold to a guy who wants to remain anonymous, 90 % left :)
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 813
      Originally posted by stevegold87
      Don't worry Heffron89, people here will work to make this place better and this forum is still new :)
      Ye I shouldn't, I won't stake here but it's worrying me to see everytime I read in this forum part there is a new scammer and peopel seems to fall time after time to it, I mean a guy that posted some random graph he found on the internet got 2k dollar stake lol...

      But as I said, TS show me your balance, graph etc on mikogo and my friend might be interest in staking.
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by Heffron89
      Originally posted by stevegold87
      Don't worry Heffron89, people here will work to make this place better and this forum is still new :)
      Ye I shouldn't, I won't stake here but it's worrying me to see everytime I read in this forum part there is a new scammer and peopel seems to fall time after time to it, I mean a guy that posted some random graph he found on the internet got 2k dollar stake lol...

      But as I said, TS show me your balance, graph etc on mikogo and my friend might be interest in staking.
      i´m not even registered at Betfair, because I only switch the skin if i manage to sell shares successful, because otherwise i´ve got to stay at iPoker Network despite bad rakeback.

      But of course you could watch me via Mikogo when i cashin your and my money
      at Betfair and play the first sessions.

      Kind regards :)
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 813
      Originally posted by mo9jito
      Originally posted by Heffron89
      Originally posted by stevegold87
      Don't worry Heffron89, people here will work to make this place better and this forum is still new :)
      Ye I shouldn't, I won't stake here but it's worrying me to see everytime I read in this forum part there is a new scammer and peopel seems to fall time after time to it, I mean a guy that posted some random graph he found on the internet got 2k dollar stake lol...

      But as I said, TS show me your balance, graph etc on mikogo and my friend might be interest in staking.
      i´m not even registered at Betfair, because I only switch the skin if i manage to sell shares successful, because otherwise i´ve got to stay at iPoker Network despite bad rakeback.

      But of course you could watch me via Mikogo when i cashin your and my money
      at Betfair and play the first sessions.

      Kind regards :)
      Ye I wanna see your money on the site before, and I also wanna see when u log in with that name that is on ur sharkscope graph
    • METALzx
      METALzx
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      Joined: 03.08.2008 Posts: 4,501
      I'm not trying to kill your biz but
      Are you "mo9jito" on ipoker/stars too?

      If yes

      ipoker - mo9jito - 8 games played -56% roi - avg bi $2 < this has games from this May
      pokerstars - mo9jito - 60 games -76% roi - avg bi $1 < this has games from jun 20 (today) aswell


      [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoAnNMzdGOarfhCMuxFzqpyZnFJOLxxHt6tI7H0U7aVnjOHiuc&t=1[/img]




      If not - place some graphs, show us results
    • mo9jito
      mo9jito
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      Joined: 27.04.2011 Posts: 573
      Originally posted by METALzx
      I'm not trying to kill your biz but
      Are you "mo9jito" on ipoker/stars too?

      If yes

      ipoker - mo9jito - 8 games played -56% roi - avg bi $2 < this has games from this May
      pokerstars - mo9jito - 60 games -76% roi - avg bi $1 < this has games from jun 20 (today) aswell


      [img]http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSoAnNMzdGOarfhCMuxFzqpyZnFJOLxxHt6tI7H0U7aVnjOHiuc&t=1[/img]




      If not - place some graphs, show us results
      on ipoker i´ve got a different screenname, but on stars thats me :D
      But I´ve never deposited a single cent there and only played with a freeroll win there.
      And today I only played some qualifiers there using FPPs.
      But you´re right, my results on stars are terrible.

      My screenname on iPoker starts totally different:
      "Cr........D" :)
      And there I really have decent results.
    • Heffron89
      Heffron89
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      Joined: 23.01.2009 Posts: 813
      Lol you hide your screenname ................ and your looking for a 500 dollar stake wow just wow.
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