[NL20-NL50] NL25 : Another AA

    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $25
      Hero:
      $26,38
      SB:
      $15

      0/0 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:heart: , A:club:
      UTG+1 calls $0,25, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $1,20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3,50, SB calls $3,40, 2 folds, MP2 calls $2,30.

      Flop: ($10,65) Q:diamond: , J:spade: , 2:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, MP2 bets $10,40, Hero raises to $20,80, SB folds, MP2 raises to $21,50 (All-In)

      Turn: ($52,95) Q:heart:
      River: ($52,95) 2:club:


      Final Pot: $52,95

      Sixth time in 3 days I got it cracked, got -110 $ on AA now for the last week. I don't know how to defend myself from this ...
  • 13 replies
    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      Raise more preflop, ~3.85$.
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      Honestly, what's 10 % of the raise size gonna make for a difference ?
    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      nh imo. No way I'm folding aces on this flop to just one bet. Judging by your comment, I'd say he had AQ? Welcome to downswing city :D
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      It's just happening so much lately that I lose them that I'm really wondering whether I could avoid those situations.
    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      Well, ok, 10% is nothing and my comment is worthless. Keep giving your opponent better odds then and stop posting hands for advice concerning how to "defend against this".
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      I was referring to the post flop situation.
      I just don't see what 10 % preflop's gonna do ??? I realise the raises in my previously posted AA hands (the deepstacked ones) were too low, but 10 % just seems like nitpicking.
    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      You can't defend against this postflop. That's why you've got to make the preflop pot bigger. I'm not saying your size is atrocious or anything, just that it isn't 100% optimal. More like 90%. But hey, if you can live with that, fine by me.
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      It'll have to make due, 6 tabling it's hard to calculate the perfect potsize raise each time :)
      Sry, got a bit defensive there, dunno why ... guess I didn't like my evening dinner.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Look, I´d never fold AA on that flop either but after a lot of similar situations, I came to decide that I cannot play AA post flop as if it is a strong hand , which it is not (and KK, QQ for that matter). So I raise pf, while I´m ahead and if I meet resistance on the flop I call his bet and see the turn as cheap as possible.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      I raise a little more preflop and would also go broke on the flop.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Originally posted by Thorsten77
      I raise a little more preflop and would also go broke on the flop.
      You reckon it is EV+ to call AI every time on a flop like this?
      I mean AA is not such a strong hand pos flop . I ´m very interested in this definiion because it is one of my leaks: How to play KK+ on this type of situation, when vilain donkbets the flop.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      No, I don't suggest to go broke with AA in any situation. The factors that lead to my decision here are:

      1. The pot size: the pot is quite big and you don't have too much behind. Hence, you are getting pretty good odds. As a rule of thumb: going broke with TPTK or better in reraised pots with 100BB stacks is typically not a mistake!

      2. The board texture: if the board is really dry, there are not many hands that he can have. Assume you have aces on a K72 rainbow flop and there is a lot of action. Well, your opponents either overplays TP, tries to bluff you or has a monster (=typically a set). On a drawy board, he may often have a OESD, FD+Overcards or any other combodraw in addition to the hands mentioned before. Hence, there are more hands against which you are favorite...
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Ok. Thanks