Do You Ever Put Someone On Quads? :)

    • Meda1985
      Meda1985
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      DO YOU EVER PUT SOMEONE ON QUADS??? :)

      Known players:        
      UTG1:
      $4.49
      Hero:
      $3.18

      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J:heart: , J:spade:
      UTG folds, UTG1 calls $0.02, UTG2 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, 6 folds, UTG1 calls $0.06.

        I raise with a classic hand, UTG1 is a tight player.

      Flop: ($0.19) 9:club: , 8:club: , 6:heart: (2 players)
      UTG1 bets $0.19, Hero raises to $0.57, UTG1 calls $0.38.

        I re-raise him in order to see if my over-pair is good. His call alarmed me, he can have anything from flush draw to a flopped straight. I'm cautios.

      Turn: ($1.33) 6:diamond: (2 players)
      UTG1 checks, Hero checks.

        He checks this turn! He could be with straight, but wouldn't it be kind of stuypid to let me see a free river if I'm with a flush draw? A full house or quads would be realistic here and he's slow-playing me... I'll check. But, I'm really PUTTING HIM ON QUADS!

      River: ($1.33) J:club: (2 players)
      UTG1 checks, Hero checks.

        OMG, my nut full house!!! Why is he checking? We are both with deep stacks, if I raise I will probably get re-raised and maybe I'll fold because I REALLY think he has pocket 6's... I want to see his hand, so I'll check.

      Final Pot: $1.33

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      UTG1 shows (6c 5c)
      Hero shows a full-house, jacks full of sixes (Jh Js)

      Hero wins with a full-house, jacks full of sixes (Jh Js)

      Just to make a brief explainantion of my stupid play here... I was playing for five hours, it was a slow session. 4 tables and I didn't make or lose something. In last half an hour all started to happen, I started a heat-streak. Won about 200BB very briefly, but one of the previous hands I played I was with pocket rockets, after raises and re-raises I've got two callers on the flop all-in and lost to one of them against his QQQQ, and won the other guy, so I was 9BB good. A hand exactly before this one I went all-n AA vs AA...
      If I wasn't distracted and stuff, I think that I would make those 160BB and finish my session twice as good, BUT, I was putting him on 6666... DO YOU EVER PUT SOMEONE ON QUADS???
  • 16 replies
    • clawindsouza
      clawindsouza
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      nope never:)
    • Meda1985
      Meda1985
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      :D
      I promise, it won't happen ever again! :)
    • Saruniks
      Saruniks
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      ofcourse we do that all the time. Well, at least rich pros do that.




      though Ivey doesn't like that, and this hand would probably destroy Phil Ivey's poker face too.
    • Meda1985
      Meda1985
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      Look at Ivey's face! He couldn't believe it! ?(
    • Saruniks
      Saruniks
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      Originally posted by Meda1985
      Look at Ivey's face! He couldn't believe it! ?(
      yes, because you can never put someone on quads ever :f_biggrin:
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      Of course you should put someone on quads if it's the only hand in their range. And it pretty much never will be........

      Maybe vs the worlds biggest nit 5000bb deep ;)

      Oh and typically if the board is KKKKx you should also put someone on quads....
    • wategun7
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      I did once in a husng and was right. I think it's possible to put someone on quads if there is 3 of a kind on board.

      Board was Q22T2- and I bet/folded river with KQ...

      He never folds perflop- so 2 is in his range.

      He slowplays monsters- so he calls until river.

      His river raise was a huge overbet- and he never bluffed with overbet.

      :)
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
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      If the board is 6666x, i always put people on quads.
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
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      Oh and:
    • MatejM47
      MatejM47
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      Originally posted by wategun7
      I did once in a husng and was right. I think it's possible to put someone on quads if there is 3 of a kind on board.

      Board was Q22T2- and I bet/folded river with KQ...

      He never folds perflop- so 2 is in his range.

      He slowplays monsters- so he calls until river.

      His river raise was a huge overbet- and he never bluffed with overbet.

      :)
      Well with KQ on that board you don't nearly have the nuts. There's still TT and QQ that beats you so its kinda foldable against a huge overbet.

      And no its not possible to put someone exactly on quads in NLH, but i think its possible in PLO.
    • wategun7
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      Originally posted by MatejM47
      Originally posted by wategun7
      I did once in a husng and was right. I think it's possible to put someone on quads if there is 3 of a kind on board.

      Board was Q22T2- and I bet/folded river with KQ...

      He never folds perflop- so 2 is in his range.

      He slowplays monsters- so he calls until river.

      His river raise was a huge overbet- and he never bluffed with overbet.

      :)
      Well with KQ on that board you don't nearly have the nuts. There's still TT and QQ that beats you so its kinda foldable against a huge overbet.

      And no its not possible to put someone exactly on quads in NLH, but i think its possible in PLO.
      Yeah I agree that it's no where near the nuts- but I think it was unlikely that he has 1010 or QQ since he limp called preflop in position... I didn't put all the info in the hand in my original post- but basically the idea is that quads was his most likely holding.
    • Saruniks
      Saruniks
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      Originally posted by MatejM47
      Originally posted by wategun7
      I did once in a husng and was right. I think it's possible to put someone on quads if there is 3 of a kind on board.

      Board was Q22T2- and I bet/folded river with KQ...

      He never folds perflop- so 2 is in his range.

      He slowplays monsters- so he calls until river.

      His river raise was a huge overbet- and he never bluffed with overbet.

      :)
      Well with KQ on that board you don't nearly have the nuts. There's still TT and QQ that beats you so its kinda foldable against a huge overbet.

      And no its not possible to put someone exactly on quads in NLH, but i think its possible in PLO.
      and AA, KK
    • Saruniks
      Saruniks
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      Originally posted by Alficor1
      If the board is 6666x, i always put people on quads.
      Really? Even pros have problem with this.

      I saw Jennifer Tilly on HU match where she didn't understand that if her opponent had A, he would have nuts here and raised...
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
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      Originally posted by Saruniks
      Originally posted by Alficor1
      If the board is 6666x, i always put people on quads.
      Really? Even pros have problem with this.

      I saw Jennifer Tilly on HU match where she didn't understand that if her opponent had A, he would have nuts here and raised...
      That was Christy Gazes.. come on people, give Tilly some credit.
    • jmackenzie
      jmackenzie
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      Originally posted by Alficor1
      Originally posted by Saruniks
      Originally posted by Alficor1
      If the board is 6666x, i always put people on quads.
      Really? Even pros have problem with this.

      I saw Jennifer Tilly on HU match where she didn't understand that if her opponent had A, he would have nuts here and raised...
      That was Christy Gazes.. come on people, give Tilly some credit.
      not too far off in my eyes

    • DanMeaks
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      Can you really call a big breasted American actress who is bedding a pro, a pro?