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[NL2-NL10] J4s freeplay

    • VisionAlex
      Joined: 22.12.2007 Posts: 4
      Poker Room skin
      Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.15/$0.25
      10 players

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $12.30
      UTG+1: $24.35
      UTG+2: $7.20
      MP1: $4.50
      MP2: $21.40
      MP3: $24.35
      CO: $24.10
      Button: $28.20
      SB: $12.80
      Hero: $6.05

      Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with J:diamond: 4:diamond:
      UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, MP3 calls, 2 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

      Flop: A:diamond: 9:diamond: K:spade: ($1.5, 6 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, [color:#cc0000]UTG bets $1[/color], UTG+2 folds, [color:#cc0000]MP1 raises all-in $4.25[/color], 2 folds, Hero folds, UTG calls.

      Turn: 3:club: ($10, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10)

      River: J:spade: ($10, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $10)

      Final pot: $10
      Would i get the odds to call if i know that the other player will call the raise too ? He had like 45 WTS over 300 hands and i'm putting raiser on Ax, even worse, he was verry agresive player, and he only limped preflop. I would have 2.3 to 1 pot odds
  • 3 replies
    • DoigteurFou
      Joined: 16.08.2007 Posts: 1,529
      If you had a read that he would call, you had the odds to call. but your flush draw isn't the nut, so you may be drawing dead... I think you have the odds to call here, but i would fold because you just invested nothing, and if you say players are extremely aggressive/loose there will be far better spots later on, so there is no need to call a close call like that. Moreover because it's still possible MP1 won't call.
    • drachdudek
      Joined: 06.11.2007 Posts: 656
      C/F well done!
    • xylere
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      If MP wasn`t all-in I would consider pushing, if i had reads. Againt unknowns after such action I would tend to fold. Though it seems very close to me. you are geting very close odds if UTG is calling.

      But the check is correct. In multiway unraised pots we play our draws out of position passively. There is no much sense in betting them.

      check/fold or call odds when we have 8-9 outs (or check/push when we have reads)

      check/push with 9+ outs draws (preferably having reads that somebody will likely bet).