coaching NL betsizes

    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      Hello ladies and gentleman

      todays coaching will be a THEORY COACHING ONLY !!!!

      because many people asked me to do this, we will do another coaching about BETSIZES

      betsizes are one KEY way to gain maximum value out of your play.
      chosing bad betsizes can lead to a loss ofmany many big blinds, wether you bet to high or to small.

      so we will try to get some clue, about how much to bet, preflop, flop, turn and river and why we should.

      hf

      feel free to post your questions and hands in here as well :)
  • 8 replies
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #1

      villian:
      vpip 32 / PFR 12 / af 2.3 / hands 53

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Hero (UTG) ($52.82)
      MP ($52.75)
      Button ($70.53)
      SB ($35.41)
      BB ($25.35)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with 9:diamond: , 9:club:
      Hero bets $1, MP calls $1, 3 folds

      Flop: ($2.35) 3:spade: , Q:club: , 9:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, MP raises $6, Hero raises $20.50, MP raises $45.75 (All-In), Hero calls $29.75

      Turn: ($105.85) J:club: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($105.85) 8:diamond: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $105.85
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #2

      villian:
      vpip 59 / pfr 3 / AF 2.1 / 158 hands


      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Button ($58.50)
      SB ($52)
      BB ($71.35)
      Hero (UTG) ($74.55)
      MP ($120.05)
      CO ($117.25)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 1 fold, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

      Flop: ($7.50) 4:diamond: , J:diamond: , 3:heart: (4 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $6, MP calls $6, 2 folds

      Turn: ($19.50) 4:club: (2 players)
      [color=#CC3333]

      hero ???? how much to bet ?
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #3
      villian : vpip73 / pfr 6 / af 1.6 / hands 86

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Button ($60.35)
      Hero (SB) ($71.45)
      BB ($50)
      UTG ($51.25)
      MP ($50)
      CO ($54.05)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 2:spade: , 2:diamond:
      3 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.25, BB checks

      Flop: ($1.50) 2:heart: , 3:spade: , 3:club: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, Button bets $0.50, Hero raises $2, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.50) J:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, Button raises $9, Hero raises $12.50, Button calls $8

      River: ($39.50) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $51.95 (All-In), Button calls $40.85 (All-In)

      Total pot: $121.20
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #4

      villian completley unknown, but looks fishy after 15 hands


      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($99.85)
      BB ($34.25)
      UTG ($204.80)
      MP ($52.25)
      CO ($72.55)
      Hero (Button) ($53.60)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with K:club: , K:heart:
      3 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1

      Flop: ($3.25) 7:spade: , K:diamond: , A:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB calls $2

      Turn: ($7.25) A:heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

      River: ($15.25) 9:diamond: (2 players)
      BB checks, [color=#CC3333]

      hero bets .... ?
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #5

      villian:
      vpip 53 / pfr 15 / af 1.3 / hands 43

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($167.80)
      MP ($54.10)
      CO ($52.95)
      Button ($49.85)
      Hero (SB) ($53.70)
      BB ($26.90)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 4:diamond: , 4:heart:
      UTG bets $1.50, 2 folds, Button calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, BB calls $1

      Flop: ($6) J:heart: , K:club: , 7:club: (4 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, Button checks

      Turn: ($6) 4:spade: (4 players)
      Hero bets $4.50, BB calls $4.50, 2 folds

      River: ($15) J:spade: (2 players)
      [color=#CC3333]

      hero bets... ?

      10$ , FD will fold, all other trsh folds 100% 30% we bet 10$ he folds 30% = 15$*0,3 = 4,5$EV
      K call 100% 40% we bet 10$ he calls 40% we win = 10$(he calls) + 15$ (already in the pot) = 25$*0,4=10$
      J- call 100% 15% we bet he calls 15% we win = 25$*0,15 = 3,75$
      J+ minraise and we raise all in he calls 100% 15% we bet he raises we raise all in we get everything = 15+22=37*0,15= 5,55$

      overall expected winnings from betting 10$ = 4,5 (he folds)+10$ (he got a king) + 3,75$ he got J-, + 5,55$ he got J+ = 24$

      15$ , FD will fold, all other trsh folds 100% 30% we bet 10$ he folds 30% = 15$*0,3 = 4,5$EV
      K+ call 100% 20% we bet 15$ he calls 20% we win = 15$(he calls) + 15$ (already in the pot) = 30$*0,2=6$
      K- foldsl 100% 20% we bet 15$ he folds 20% we win = 15$ (already in the pot) = 15$*0,2=3$


      J- call 100% 15% we bet he calls 15% we win = 30$*0,15 = 4,5$
      J+ minraise and we raise all in he calls 100% 15% we bet he raises we raise all in we get everything = 15+22=37*0,15= 5,55$

      overall expected winnings from betting 15$ = 4,5 (he folds)+6$ (he got a king+ and calls)+ 2$ he (kot a king- and folds) + 4,5$ he got J-, + 5,55$ he got J+ = 22,55$
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #6

      villian: 31 hands 51% vpip fish#

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      BB ($25)
      UTG ($26.13)
      MP ($30.82)
      Hero (Button) ($25.75)
      SB ($26.71)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with 9:spade: , Q:heart:
      UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

      Flop: ($2.35) 7:spade: , J:spade: , 8:spade: (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

      Turn: ($5.35) 10:diamond: (2 players)
      UTG bets $1.75

      hero ????
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #7

      villian:
      vpip 32 / pfr 3/ Af.14 / hands 71

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($62.75)
      MP ($24)
      CO ($53.65)
      Button ($85.05)
      SB ($55.25)
      Hero (BB) ($50)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:diamond: , J:heart:
      1 fold, MP calls $0.50, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50, 1 fold

      Flop: ($6.50) 10:club: , 8:heart: , J:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4, MP calls $4

      Turn: ($14.50) 7:spade: (2 players)
      [color=#CC3333]

      hero bets ????
    • mrJera
      mrJera
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      Joined: 16.02.2010 Posts: 760
      made a calc when we go allin


      20$

      trash/fd 30% fold 4,5$
      K 4% call 0.04 * 35 1,4$
      K 46% fold 0.46 * 15 6,9$
      J 17% call 0.17 * 35 5,95$
      Nuts 3% call -0.03 * 35 -1.05$

      17.7$