coaching NL cbetting/betting in multiway pots

    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      hello ladies and gentleman.
      todays topic will be:

      Betting in multiway pots.

      Often times, when we raise preflop we just get to seea flop with one opponent and thats great.
      but sometimes on free will and sometimes on accident we will face more then one opponent,maybe 2 maybe 4.

      and in those spots it is very important to find our gaps, where we can still cbet.

      not to cbet those multiway pots ever is clearly a mistake, so today we want to find those spots where it is possible and where it is nessesary.

      greeting grummeler

      as usuall plz post your own hands in here lazy people !!! :D
  • 16 replies
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #1

      villian utg+1
      vpip 48 / pfr 3 / AF 2.8 / foldtocbet 66% / 78 hands

      villian MP:
      unknown

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($50.88)
      BB ($25.50)
      Hero (UTG) ($47.38)
      MP ($10.19)
      Button ($25)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:club: , 10:club:
      Hero bets $1, MP calls $1, Button calls $1, 2 folds

      Flop: ($3.35) 6:club: , 8:diamond: , J:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $2.50, MP calls $2.50, Button calls $2.50

      Turn: ($10.85) 8:heart: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP checks, Button checks

      River: ($10.85) 9:heart: (3 players)
      Hero bets $7, 1 fold, Button calls $7

      Total pot: $24.85
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #2

      both villian just 25 hands so far, they looked not too fishy untill now

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($10.16)
      BB ($11.45)
      UTG ($7.20)
      Hero (MP) ($10.52)
      Button ($5.18)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A:club: , 6:club:
      2 folds, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.90) Q:club: , 7:heart: , K:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.70) 2:club: (2 players)
      SB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

      River: ($3.10) A:spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.70, SB calls $1.70

      Total pot: $6.50
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #3

      again both villian only 30 hands playing vpip35/pfr9 untill now

      Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($68.85)
      MP ($50)
      Button ($36.95)
      Hero (SB) ($100.50)
      BB ($24.80)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with A:club: , Q:club:
      2 folds, Button calls $0.50, Hero bets $1.75, BB calls $1.50, Button calls $1.50

      Flop: ($6) 9:club: , 10:diamond: , 2:spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $3, 1 fold, Button calls $3

      Turn: ($12) A:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.50, Button calls $6.50

      River: ($25) K:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $25, 1 fold

      Total pot: $25
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #4

      villian BU:
      vpip 19 / pfr 16 / 3bet 5.2 / af 2.3 / foldtocbet 67% / hands 159

      villian sb
      vpip 80 / hands 11

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($43.02)
      Hero (MP) ($33.86)
      Button ($33.26)
      SB ($8.07)
      BB ($14.34)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with 8:heart: , J:heart:
      1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

      Flop: ($2.80) 7:diamond: , 2:heart: , 9:diamond: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.25, Button calls $2.25, SB calls $2.25

      Turn: ($9.55) 4:spade: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

      River: ($9.55) J:club: (3 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

      Total pot: $9.55
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      #5

      villian utg
      vpip 35 / pfr 9 / af 1.5 / foldtocbet 56% / 964 hands

      villian BU;:
      vpip 77 / af 0.7 / hands 30

      Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP ($41.63)
      Hero (CO) ($25.47)
      Button ($57.99)
      SB ($28.25)
      BB ($47.43)
      UTG ($33.43)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 10:club: , 8:club:
      UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero bets $1.10, Button calls $1.10, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.85

      Flop: ($3.65) 7:diamond: , 3:club: , Q:diamond: (3 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $2, Button calls $2, 1 fold

      Turn: ($7.65) Q:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4, 1 fold

      Total pot: $7.65
    • Pokerdad993
      Pokerdad993
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      Joined: 04.07.2011 Posts: 406
      Known players:
      SB:
      $0,98
      BB:
      $1,44
      UTG1:
      $2
      UTG2:
      $1,13
      MP1:
      $5,58
      MP2:
      $3,12
      MP3:
      $2,49
      CO:
      $0,77
      Hero:
      $3,13

      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with A:heart: , K:heart:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0,02, MP1 calls $0,02, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0,12, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0,10.

      Flop: ($0,29) A:club: , 5:club: , 4:club: (2 players)
      MP1 bets $0,14, Hero raises to $0,38, MP1 raises to $1,42, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $2,09

      Fold directly the Flop?
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
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      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.17)
      BB ($3.09)
      Hero ($2)
      UTG+1 ($1.21)
      UTG+2 ($0.49)
      MP1 ($0.57)
      MP2 ($2.17)
      CO ($2)
      BTN ($2)

      Dealt to Hero A:spade: K:diamond:

      Hero raises to $0.08, UTG+1 calls $0.08, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.08, SB calls $0.07, fold

      FLOP ($0.34) 3:spade: 9:spade: 5:spade:

      SB checks, Hero ?
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
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      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($2.01)
      BB ($2.72)
      UTG ($1.56)
      UTG+1 ($0.37)
      UTG+2 ($2.03)
      CO ($12.51)
      BTN ($2.86)

      Dealt to Hero 6:diamond: 6:club:

      UTG calls $0.02, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, BB calls $0.08, fold

      FLOP ($0.22) A:diamond: 7:diamond: T:diamond:

      Hero ?

      villian 20/0 H:42
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
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      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.41)
      BB ($1.48)
      Hero ($3.66)
      UTG+1 ($3.86)
      UTG+2 ($0.80)
      MP1 ($1.94)
      CO ($1.54)
      BTN ($1.57)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: K:spade:

      Hero raises to $0.08, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.08, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.08, fold, fold

      FLOP ($0.27) 3:club: 2:club: A:spade:

      Hero?
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Called by; Rock(12/10), rock(14/6), fish(46/6)

      The rocks are both tight regs - fit or fold. I rarely know what this fish is doing so I just bet for value and protection.
      I'd do this with 22+ here anyway, seems a good board v rocks who are just calling. I may double barrel v fish?

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.04(BB) Replayer
      SB ($4.32)
      BB ($10.46)
      Hero ($4.21)
      UTG+1 ($4)
      CO ($5.84)
      BTN ($4)

      Dealt to Hero 9:heart: 9:diamond:

      Hero raises to $0.16, UTG+1 calls $0.16, CO calls $0.16, fold, SB calls $0.14, fold

      FLOP ($0.68) 7:diamond: 2:spade: T:diamond:

      SB checks, Hero bets $0.46, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, SB folds
    • Laci24
      Laci24
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      Joined: 07.10.2009 Posts: 5,997
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      €0.05/€0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      10.47
      15.09
      10.00
      9.45
      10.00
      6.08
      9.64


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q, Q.
      MP1 raises to €0.40, Hero raises to €1.30, 3 folds, SB calls €1.25, BB folds, MP1 calls €0.90.

      Flop: (€4) 8, 2, J (3 players)
      SB checks, MP1 checks, Hero?

      SB: VPIP: 97, PFR: 23, 40 hand, Call open 86%
      fold to cbet: 50, 7,1 3bet.
      WTSD: 26, W$SD:22%

      MP1: VPIP: 44, PFR: 13, 55 hand
      AF total: 1.8, flop: 5, turn: 0.8. river: 3.0.
      Fold to CB: 80% (5). WTSD: 23%, W$SD: 80%.
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Huge fish on right and passive Station on left.
      I'm not good less than 4 players, I don't play it enough.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.04(BB) Replayer
      SB ($1.46)
      BB ($1.81)
      Hero ($4.03)

      Dealt to Hero 4:heart: 4:spade:

      Hero raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.08

      FLOP ($0.36) 6:spade: T:heart: A:club:

      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      TURN ($0.36) 6:spade: T:heart: A:club: Q:spade:

      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks

      RIVER ($0.36) 6:spade: T:heart: A:club: Q:spade: 5:diamond:

      SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks
    • imstoked
      imstoked
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      Joined: 31.05.2011 Posts: 80
      Prima Network $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1379356
      DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

      UTG: $3.47 - VPIP: 55, PFR: 13, 3B: 7, AF: 1.5, Hands: 154
      CO: $10.00 - VPIP: 10, PFR: 7, 3B: 3, AF: 2.9, Hands: 13820
      BTN: $3.59 - VPIP: 23, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 2.3, Hands: 128
      Hero (SB): $10.32 - VPIP: 15, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 3.0, Hands:
      BB: $10.25 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 12, 3B: 3, AF: 1.8, Hands: 2102

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with Q :diamond: Q :club:
      2 folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30, BTN calls $0.30

      Flop: ($1.20) 9 :spade: 4 :diamond: J :club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.80, BB calls $0.80, BTN calls $0.80

      Turn: ($3.60) A :spade: (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $2.39, Hero folds, BB folds
    • lapetitefilleitii
      lapetitefilleitii
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 386
      Opponent is very passive preflop and very aggresif postflop

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Rejouer la main

      €0.05/€0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      15.76
      3.73
      18.13
      11.02
      11.89


      Preflop: Hero is BB with T, T.
      MP3 folds, CO calls €0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to €0.60, CO calls €0.50.

      Flop: (€1.25) 9, J, 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets €1.00, Hero calls €1.00.

      Turn: (€3.25) 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets €1.40, Hero calls €1.40.

      River: (€6.05) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets €3.20, Hero calls €3.20.

      Final Pot: €12.45.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, tens and sixes(T T).
      CO shows two pairs, sixes and twos(2 2).

      Hero wins with two pairs, tens and sixes(T T).

    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
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      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.60)
      Hero ($2)
      UTG ($2.03)
      UTG+1 ($2)
      UTG+2 ($2.11)
      MP1 ($3.33)
      CO ($1.58)
      BTN ($3.07)

      Dealt to Hero J:club: J:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, MP1 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, MP1 calls $0.10, fold

      FLOP ($0.27) Q:spade: 3:spade: 2:spade:

      Hero? [color=red]

      villian 35/3/2/1.6 H:1.4K (VPIP/PFR/AF/3Bet/)
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
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      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.03)
      BB ($2.27)
      UTG ($2.11)
      UTG+1 ($5.49)
      CO ($1.17)
      Hero ($2.02)

      Dealt to Hero A:club: T:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, BB calls $0.06

      FLOP ($0.17) J:spade: Q:heart: A:diamond:

      BB checks, Hero ? [color=red]

      villian 37/20/8/7.1 H:156 (VPIP/PFR/AF/3Bet)