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[NL20-NL50] NL25 QQ in BB v UTG raise

    • Millsyuk
      Millsyuk
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2009 Posts: 435
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($3.15)
      Hero ($45.46)
      UTG ($26.30)
      UTG+1 ($31.65)
      UTG+2 ($25)
      MP1 ($25.85)
      CO ($36.34)
      BTN ($11.01)

      Dealt to Hero Q:club: Q:spade:

      UTG raises to $0.85, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.60

      FLOP ($1.80) 7:diamond: 2:heart: 8:club:

      Hero checks, UTG checks

      TURN ($1.80) 7:diamond: 2:heart: 8:club: 6:spade:

      Hero bets $1.25, UTG raises to $4, Hero calls $2.75

      RIVER ($9.80) 7:diamond: 2:heart: 8:club: 6:spade: 9:diamond:

      Hero checks, UTG checks

      Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade:
      (Pre 56%, Flop 76.1%, Turn 86.4%)

      UTG shows A:club: K:spade:
      (Pre 44%, Flop 23.9%, Turn 13.6%)

      Hero wins $9.32


      Villain 19/12/6 wtsd 36 (84 hands)


      This the best line to take here? Missed a river bet?


      Ugh sorry, just realised which forum I was in, can a Mod please move these to the hand review forum, thanks!
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      * Moved *
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      This the best line to take here?
      - if you don´t 3-bet pf I like c/c flop and calling him down or b/c turn if you check flop.

      Missed a river bet?
      - he is reping stronger range and he won´t call you down with bluffs, so I like c/c river
    • Millsyuk
      Millsyuk
      Gold
      Joined: 08.06.2009 Posts: 435
      Is there any point 3betting pre here? Seems that against this sort of opponent he is going to fold worse hand and 4bet with AA,KK,AK.

      A lot of people raise any pocket pair UTG so isn't flatting better to get value from these hands on dry boards like this?

      If I am going to flat here to hopefully keep these weaker hands in his range do I then need to be playing hands like this a lot more aggresively to get more value? Flatting here doesn't really look that strong especially on this sort of board...
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Millsyuk
      Is there any point 3betting pre here? Seems that against this sort of opponent he is going to fold worse hand and 4bet with AA,KK,AK.

      A lot of people raise any pocket pair UTG so isn't flatting better to get value from these hands on dry boards like this?

      If I am going to flat here to hopefully keep these weaker hands in his range do I then need to be playing hands like this a lot more aggresively to get more value? Flatting here doesn't really look that strong especially on this sort of board...
      Depends how tight is player, and if generally people 3-bet that spot with QQ or not. If he is opening any pp I think 3-betting is generally better, since then he has to tighten up his opening range and if get 4-bet then you can consider folding, but I think he would also call with TT/JJ that spot and he would not really just call for set value.

      do I then need to be playing hands like this a lot more aggresively to get more value?
      - not really sure, if you want to have some hands that can call 3-barrel I think c/c is perfectly fine that spot. At that case he can´t really go 3 streets for value with JJ/TT, so you can also call twice with worse hands. I would likely prefer leading to him to make sure I get maximum value if I don´t c/r flop and play for stacks