[NL20-NL50] BSS NL25 FR 2pair AKs against allin

    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      FullTiltPoker Game #5275663634: Table Churchfield - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:17:51 ET - 2008/02/16

      Vilain reraised pf so I ´ve put him on AK,JJ+. He could beat me with AA KK but there where 2 of each out already, so I called allin. Is that the right move?

      BU (62.35)
      SB Swo0sh17 ($21.95)
      BB smj000 ($19.10)
      UTG +1 UofMichRN ($26.20)
      UTG+2 steveysee ($10.85)
      MP1 billkill1 ($33.85)
      MP2 81EAGLE ($23.05)
      MP3 amirss ($7.90)
      CO: kimseongchan ($24.75)

      Hero [A :heart: K :club:]
      3 folds, Hero raises 1.25, MP3 calls 1.25, BU raises 3.50, 3 folds, Hero calls 2.25, MP3 calls 2.25
      FLOP (10.85) *** [3 :club: 6 :heart: A :diamond:]
      81EAGLE has 15 seconds left to act
      Hero bets 5.00, MP3 folds, BU calls 5.00

      TURN (20.85)*** [K :spade:]

      Hero checks, BU checks

      RIVER ( 20.85) *** [2 :diamond:]
      Hero checks, BU bet 15.00, Hero calls allin 14.55
  • 7 replies
    • Cojack123
      Cojack123
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      Joined: 28.08.2006 Posts: 1,569
      dont call
      4 bet/call Ai or fold.

      You want to see all 5 cards
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      I suppose you are referring to the pf play but the comments on the SHC article tell us that if you are reraised, you call with AK, QQ, so I´m a bit confused now.:( ?
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Sry, I forgot to check the "advise the judge....."

      Could you comment on this post again please
    • Cojack123
      Cojack123
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      Joined: 28.08.2006 Posts: 1,569
      comments on the SHC article tell us that if you are reraised, you call with AK, QQ,


      With QQ its ok to call

      With Ak playing oop Postflop is not much fun -->
      if you are Utg i tend to fold

      The Shc article is a good advise but is only for general
      situation.

      Some different specific Situations are for example:

      [in shorthanded aggressive games so they dont fit for FR]

      In late position 4 bet oop or some times a call

      In some blind battles it is ok to call oop but than it is difficult to play.

      Calling ip is ok.

      you are in a possible squeeze situation --> with Ak i dont want to see
      a Lowcards board because we have to fold to a conti, and you will sometimes fold the better hand.

      But you play FR so it is unlikly that he has a huge range of hands.
      i fold is fine.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Cojack: If I 4bet and BU would call. Should I move all-in with every flop?

      As played: don´t know if you played scared or tricky. To me: I would check/call flop, shove turn with any card or check/shove flop.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      @ Cojack123 I never liked this call a reraise OOP with AK, from SHC.
      If I understand correctly, your advise on FR tables OOP is to fold AK when reraised, right?

      @Kaitz20 I don´t see why c/c flop with TPTK. Turn and river I played trying CRAI.
      What I did not expect is that vilain had AA, with 2 As already out :D

      If you 4-bet pf you are pot commited and AI is your only choice.
    • Cojack123
      Cojack123
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      Joined: 28.08.2006 Posts: 1,569
      @ Cojack123


      Yes

      I don´t see why c/c flop with TPTK


      because you are not the preflop aggressor and you are donking in a 3 bet pot
      A high board.
      If he had trash he can fold sometimes he will fold QQ or KK
      you want this hands to make a contibet.

      c/c is ok because you dont have to protect
      Like if he has Kk or AQ and you checkt to him at the turn
      he maybe fires a again.
      + if he CB at the turn and you check again at the river he
      may tyr to bluff you of your hand

      @kaitz20 You have to descide if his range and the board
      allows to push after a called 4 bet if you think he is the guy
      who says "mhm, only to call a minraise maybe i hit my set"
      Or "ok, I have AK AQ maybe i hit my ace on the flop its only a minraise
      i call"