[NL2-NL10] Live hand, flopped set in limped singled suited flop

    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      3 blind game, 1bb in SB and BB and 1/2BB in BU. 2BB to limp

      BB 26bb
      Hero MP1 160bb
      MP3 150bb
      CO 100bb
      BU 300bb

      all players listed limp, Hero has 5 5

      Flop A 7 5

      EP says he has an ace and no spade and goes all in, Hero ??

      Everyone behind plays pretty tight aggressive and are unlikely to go out of line.

      EP feels like he is telling the truth.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello elhh82,

      Lets say he even has some wider range, maybe something like:

      Board: A:spade: 7:spade: 5:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    34.77%  32.99%   1.78% { 77, A7s, KsQs, QsJs, JsTs, 9s8s, Ah5h, Ac4c, Ah3h, Ah2h, A7o, A5o, AhTs }
      UTG+1  65.23%  63.45%   1.78% { 5d5c }

      Then we still get great equity.

      Also even if we remove those Ax hands:

      Board: A:spade: 7:spade: 5:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    40.97%  39.20%   1.77% { 77, A7s, KsQs, QsJs, JsTs, 9s8s, A7o, A5o }
      UTG+1  59.03%  57.26%   1.77% { 5d5c }

      We still get great equity. So therefore for me it's a Call. Even if we are against flush we still have a lot of outs. I expect him to ship with 2pairs as well there.

      Best regards.
    • elhh82
      elhh82
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.09.2008 Posts: 6,838
      If we call, and let's say CO sticks it in behind us.

      Pot will be 10.5bb pre + 26bb x 2 + 100bb x 2 = 262.5 bb total

      And we will have to call 74bb to win that pot, so we need 28.2% equity to call.

      What kind of range would you put a standard tight aggressive player on if he pushes there? can we call his shove too?

      I would say he has a flush, and at worst some kind of combo draw or pair+flush draw which we always have a redraw against. Probably discard the nut flushes from his range if he pushes tho.

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      Anyway, in this hand, I was actually MP3 and had J 8, MP1 went all in with his set and I also went all in.

      I guess if MP1 flats the all in from EP as you suggested, I should just push in MP3 with my third nut flush?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      What kind of range would you put a standard tight aggressive player on if he pushes there? can we call his shove too?

      First of all I wont expect a TAG normal player to push here. :> Since he knows himself as well that he will rarely get Called by worse hands. But most likely could be some weak flush for example. Definitely as well even sets/pair+FD. Really depends on the play-style.

      I guess if MP1 flats the all in from EP as you suggested, I should just push in MP3 with my third nut flush?

      Don't think that I'd get it away as long as I understand it's even a live cash-game which is even worse than normal online games. :D