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[NL2-NL10] NL2 Shorthanded sucker end str8draw vs fish.

    • tryhardnoob
      Joined: 01.12.2010 Posts: 1,287
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

      SB ($1.62)
      BB ($0.71)
      UTG ($2.88)
      Tryhardnoob (Button) ($2.10)

      Preflop: Tryhardnoob is Button with 8, 7
      1 fold, Tryhardnoob bets $0.06, SB calls $0.05, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.14) 10, 9, 2 (2 players)
      SB checks, Tryhardnoob bets $0.09, SB calls $0.09

      Turn: ($0.32) 3 (2 players)
      SB checks, Tryhardnoob bets $0.20, SB calls $0.20

      River: ($0.72) K (2 players)
      SB checks, Tryhardnoob checks

      Total pot: $0.72

      Tryhardnoob had 8, 7 (high card, King).
      SB had J, Q (straight, King high).
      Outcome: SB won $0.69

      I rarely Cbet against fish without a made hand. Fish is 48/0/0 VPIP PFR 3BET and 12% WTS (only 25 hands).

      My question is, will this be profitable? If not, would it be profitable without the Fdraw on the board or if I had the good end of the str8draw? Also what do you prefer to raise preflop in these NL2 games, 4bb or 3bb, or do you raise positionally like 4bb from MP+UTG and 3BB from rest? THANK YOU!
  • 2 replies
    • patszerdonk
      Joined: 19.05.2011 Posts: 834
      Imo, there are many kind of fish. Some of them play loose passive preflop, but quite decent postflop. I think if his WTSD = 12% with good sample, then it's ok to cbet him with draw hand, because he is not a calling station fish.

      about PFR, I prefer 3xbb because I'm loose preflop. If you are tight preflop, I think 4xbb is better. About varying the size according to position, I think it's ok. I see a PS Coach do that in a coaching video.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello tryhardnoob,

      First of all we can't take into account the WTSD while we only have 25 hands on him. Rather the question is he rather passive player or not?

      If he is rather passive and wont bet without made hand then skipping the CBet is totally fine as well. But while he may do even pick some aggression on turn if we Check behind then betting it for free card is totally fine. Keep in mind I would only bet the flop and very likely Check behind while I don't expect to have much fold equity anyways.

      Best regards.