[NL2-NL10] nl10 deep - KK in 4bet pot

    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      PokerStars - $0.10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP+1: $14.48
      CO: $10.21
      BTN: $26.10
      SB: $25.52 42/15/3bet:6/Hands:252
      BB: $27.90
      UTG: $13.57
      Hero (UTG+1): $33.82
      MP: $11.92

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10, MP+1 posts ante $0.02, CO posts ante $0.02, BTN posts ante $0.02, SB posts ante $0.02, BB posts ante $0.02, UTG posts ante $0.02, Hero posts ante $0.02, MP posts ante $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.31) Hero has K:spade: K:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, MP+1 calls $0.40, CO calls $0.40, fold, SB raises to $2.70, fold, Hero raises to $6.75, fold, fold, SB calls $4.05

      Flop: ($14.56, 2 players) 8:diamond: A:heart: 8:spade:
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($14.56, 2 players) 2:club:
      SB bets $6.10, Hero calls $6.10

      River: ($26.76, 2 players) 5:diamond:
      SB bets $12.65 and is all-in, fold

      SB wins $25.46


      How horrible was this? I guess I should have just folded the turn here.
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Maniatrix,

      While it's a 4bet pot then I'd rarely expect him to bluff unless you have some other reads. For that reason I might even make the crying fold on turn.

      But overall being that deep is it even a point to 4bet? What we will get called from and what if he 5bets you? Of course we are most likely consider going broke but will we be really far-far ahead always? He might easily even trap us or either way if he 5bets then could only be with something like KK+. For that reason I'd even sometimes just Call his 3bet unless I know the opponent better or his previous actions.

      Best regards.
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      So unless I have a larger sample size on him, high 3bet - low fold to 4bet, I should just call it pre.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Maniatrix
      So unless I have a larger sample size on him, high 3bet - low fold to 4bet, I should just call it pre.
      Rather I'd ask do you expect him to continue here vs your 4bet with a lot weaker hands?
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      Of course, I meant high 3bet, high fold to 4bet I should just call while high 3bet, low fold to 4bet i should 4bet because he goes broke light. Didn't have a big enough sample on this guy though.