Originally posted by vmarqui
first of all, what limits are you playing? in microstakes, most of the money comes from fishes calling too much, so it isn't a problem if your red line goes straight to hell in nl2.
in higher limits, however, people don't make the mistake of calling too much that often, so you will need some more edge. this what I'm talking about is FE, which is interpreted by the red line. In order to improve your non SD winnings, you must:
*steal well. most of the people just don't steal enough, specially from BU. Steal with any two if they are nits. If the bb folds 80% and the sb 85%, it's extremely profitable to steal. If they fold 70% and 75%, it can be profitable too depending on your postflop skills. Consider that their equity edge is very small, and you have positional advantage. Don't steal/fold against shortstackers unless you have enough fold equity, because once they reraise you have no pot equity.
*BLUFF. againt the right opponents, in the right spots. Don't create action, wait for it. I'm sure that there are lots of spots where you could have bluffed, but you let it go. In both big and small pots. for e.g. it's folded to the fish sb who completes. you check with 42o. flop comes J62, he checks. betting here is EV+. Learn about ranges, once you put your opponent in a range, you will know wwhat kind of hand he has and how often he is going to fold.
*Don't throw money. You have AK, you raise, the nitty 12/11 CO calls and everyone folds. flop A28, you bet, he raises. you can't fold TP, so you call. on the turn,he bets. he could still be bluffing, so you call. On river he pushes and you feel dumb as you fold. Sometimes it's ok doing this against the right opponents, but not against a nit.
*Understand FE. BU aggressive TAG fish who steals 50% raises, you 3bet. He 4bets 50%, and 4bets you. You have 65s. PUSH! he's going to 4bet/fold a lot in that spot. let's say he calls with AQ+, 99+ and folds the rest. That's 5% of his range. He raises with 50% and 4bets with half of that range, which is 25%. this means he fold 80% of the time, which is insane! Even if he only folds 40% of the times, this is a profitable move, as you have 30% equity against that range.
but anyway, your red line is gonna go up once you get better at poker. The best nl2 reg has a horrible red line, yet he crushes it at 30bb/100. don't focus on it, but on improving your skills.
Just can agree most of it.
(Sidenote, my nosd winnings (and ofc sd winnings) are positive, both SH/FR
1)Stealing. Most im agree, but what you mean by "once they reraise you have no pot equity." I make sick amount of money by light 4bet/get it in against proffesional shortstackers, really often its on problem for me to 4bet them any2, since they 3bet/fold A LOT and times if not, we have allways pretty ok equity compared of stack pot ratio. 4bet light good shortstackers
2)Bluffing. People make WAYYY more often bad calls than bad folds, i dont focus much of bluffing. I do it when i see clear good spot to do it, but overall i dont do it much, players call way to often. Your example when fish completes sb, then you should raise any2 in bb, not check, and cbet most of flops. This make you money
3)Cant understand what you want say here. If you want say that fold flop (if you dont want call 3barrel), then its right in most cases (depending of opponent and dynamic, but yes, in vacum against big nit, its correct).
4)Here is so much nonsense. First we need HUGE sample to use these stats (im sure, there is no winning reg who 4bet 50% over big sample). Second why the fuck 3bet 65s if opponent is sick 4bettor, just wait for value hand or hand what you really can push (Ax, PP etc).
Only thing what i want to say, how to improve your nosd is, valuebet light, make more thin valuebets and you see how your red line goes up (and blue line goes down, but if you look right spots, then your red line goes up more than blue line down).
*Make more 2nd barrels with medium (2nd pair) hands IP (bet/fold turn, especially drawy boards) - they fold better hands (better 2nd pair) and call worst (draws) = they fold - your red line goes up, they call (really often draws), your blue line goes up, since you have more eq.
*Make thin river valuebets (size must be, that 50% they call they have weaker hand). So if they call and your size is that half of time you have better hand (it means sometimes you have to vbet 1/6 of pot, often even 1bb, for example, if board is checked and you have bottom pair, bet 1bb against Ahi) your blue line goes up and often they fold, your red line goes up.
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