[NL2-NL10] NL6 FR AQo 09.08

    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,735
      - $0.06 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: $5.00
      BTN: $3.04
      SB: $13.46
      Hero (BB): $6.00
      UTG: $14.54
      UTG+1: $7.19
      MP: $6.52
      MP+1: $2.42
      LP: $4.36

      SB posts SB $0.03, Hero posts BB $0.06, CO posts DB $0.06

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:diamond: A:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, CO checks, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.36, CO calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) Q:spade: 6:spade: 2:club:
      Hero bets $0.56, CO calls $0.56

      Turn: ($1.87, 2 players) J:spade:
      Hero bets $1.40, CO raises to $4.08, Hero calls $2.68

      River: ($10.03, 2 players) A:diamond:

      CO shows 2:heart: 2:diamond: (Three of a Kind, Twos) (Pre 52%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
      Hero shows Q:diamond: A:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Queens) (Pre 48%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
      CO wins $9.44


      What to do in this situation? I was thinking for a wail before I called it. Was it easy fold?
      I think it was first time when I was in this situation. I called it because few reasons:
      - paid dead blind
      - wasn't full stack
      - I had TPTK+ NFD
      even this circumstances I should have folded it?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello BGawli,

      1) Paid blind - which is actually pretty standard. From CO it's totally fine to post the blind.

      Otherwise it really comes up to the opponent. Do you expect him here to go broke with worse pairs, lets say maybe even QT/KQ? If you do then we can easily make the calldown here while he ain't even fully stacked. But of course would be great to know the opponent, although I guess you didn't have stats on him while he just posted the blind.

      Best regards.
    • UnknownJoseph
      UnknownJoseph
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 5,735
      as u said this opponent was unknown for me... it was pretty sick hand. I learned a lot and I don't have any problem with folding hands like TPTK but there was few circumstance which made this decision very tough. I didn't mention but I invested almost 2$ in hand so this fact also made decision harder. So u said that decision to call depends on what kind of opponent he is... so what to do vs unknown player?
      From video I learned that unknown player we should treat like rational thinking player... from Harrington book I learned that if player doesn't have full stack, is unsure, not full confident, so is bad player.
      I would like to know to avoid situation like this in the future.
      Finally how u can judge this hand?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      It's either way if we expect him to ship it with worse Qx hands or even not. We need ~27% equity to make it just break-even. But for example against some made hands:

      Board: Q:spade: 6:spade: 2:club:  J:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    20.60%  20.60%   0.00% { AsQd }
      UTG+1  79.40%  79.40%   0.00% { 66, 22, QJs, KsTs, Ts9s, 8s7s, 5s4s, QJo }

      We ain't getting it. And even if we for example add KsQd:

      Board: Q:spade: 6:spade: 2:club:  J:spade:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    24.87%  24.87%   0.00% { AsQd }
      UTG+1  75.13%  75.13%   0.00% { 66, 22, QJs, KsTs, Ts9s, 8s7s, 5s4s, QJo, KsQc }

      We ain't getting it that perfectly either. So therefore as we understand he really has to have a lot wider range that just some Qx type of hands to make it profitable.