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[NL2-NL10] Turn Bet GS+FDR

    • lukezo
      lukezo
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.05.2008 Posts: 203
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):
      $4.00
      BU:
      $5.12
      SB:
      $0.96
      BB:
      $4.52


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 8.
      Hero raises to $0.16, 2 folds, BB calls $0.12.

      Flop: ($0.34) T, 6, 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.26, BB calls $0.26.

      Turn: ($0.86) 4 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.64, BB calls $0.64.

      River: ($2.14) 4 (2 players)
      BB bets $1.60, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $2.14.

      Q: Do you agree it's right to Bet Turn with such strong draw?
      Q: Do you agree with this range (calls open 22%):
      AJs, AT,66/77
      Q: I don't think he's bluffing with missed Flushes, he was passive
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Do you agree it's right to Bet Turn with such strong draw?
      - yes

      Do you agree with this range (calls open 22%):
      AJs, AT,66/77
      - no 22% are a lot wider range. Likely smt A7s+, 56s+, 22+, broadway hands

      Q: I don't think he's bluffing with missed Flushes, he was passive
      Problem is that every draw missed, so likely I´d still call his river bet
    • inlovewithamsterdam
      inlovewithamsterdam
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.07.2009 Posts: 671
      I play FR, not SH, so I may be in the wrong here, but:

      Isn't that riverbet (especially coming from a passive player) a clear valuebet (TX, slowplayed JJ+, set)? What do we beat here that a passive player bets with?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello lukezo,

      inlovewithamsterdam you are totally right and he ain't bluffing here. I do agree with you and I don't really see how we can Call the river here. Our plan to bet the turn was bet it for free showdown what we didn't get so therefore I am folding there.

      Best regards.
    • lukezo
      lukezo
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.05.2008 Posts: 203
      - no 22% are a lot wider range. Likely smt A7s+, 56s+, 22+, broadway hands


      I agree with it, didn't think this far!

      But what I didn't mention is that he Bet very fast on River, one more reason why I folded.

      Q: Do you agree it's a tell that he's strong?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Do you agree it's a tell that he's strong?

      Don't think that the timing tell tells you a lot here. At some cases they even might bluff here. But usually if they bet like this then it's often a nuts since they already knew early streets that they are gonna donk for value with strong hand like this. For bluffing I guess they'd need some more time.