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[NL20-NL50] nl25 - AK 4bet pot

    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG+1: $49.30
      MP: $62.50
      MP+1: $77.11
      LP: $58.57 13/9/Foldv3bet:40/Callv3bet:50/MPraise1st:11
      CO: $88.27
      BTN: $38.28 26/15/3betOnBU:5.4/AF:3.3/Foldv4bet:6/Callv4bet:81
      SB: $40.09
      Hero (BB): $30.00
      UTG: $38.75

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25, UTG+1 posts ante $0.05, MP posts ante $0.05, MP+1 posts ante $0.05, LP posts ante $0.05, CO posts ante $0.05, BTN posts ante $0.05, SB posts ante $0.05, Hero posts ante $0.05, UTG posts ante $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.80) Hero has A:spade: K:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, LP raises to $0.75, fold, BTN raises to $2.25, fold, Hero raises to $6.75, fold, BTN calls $4.50

      Flop: ($14.80, 2 players) 7:club: J:club: T:spade:

      Hero?


      I was pretty sure MP3 will only continue with KK+ meaning less than 10% of his opening range and that BU would go broke against me with a range weaker than AK.

      Considering BU is an aggrofish, not a good LAG and therefore I think he is more likely to overplay than bluff here, I think his 3betting range is depolarized. 5.4 could therefore be TT+,AQ+,KQs,AJs. Since he never folds to 4bets I am really looking to get it in pre since I'm about 60/40 against this range. However, I overlooked the fact that he doesn't get it in pre, he just calls 4bets, which makes for awkward postflop play for my AK OOP. I added callv4bet to my HUD after this.

      I am wondering if a cbet would usually work in this spot after the error of 4betting OOP pre has already been made.


      Hero bets $8.00, fold Hero wins $14.06
  • 4 replies
    • TetraQuark
      TetraQuark
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.05.2008 Posts: 1,521
      Hi! Samplesize was? I think your play is +EV pf just by default, although I am not sure about your 4b betsizing. Dunno how it is on nl25 but I would stil make it round 2,5x.

      About cbet; If his 4b flatting range is so high I think it is ok to cbet this flop, cuz he must fold a lot of his hands postflop (+we pick up a gs).

      Betsizing here is also tricky, cuz he may sense a smaller cbet as weakness (if he is a aggrotard) and call or raise. So I am asking Kaitz what a prefered cbet size wold be. But generally I wouldnt bet more than less than 1/3 or more than 1/2 psb.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      this is so drawy board, that I would consider also just c/f flop.
      If you c-bet then on that board you should bet at least 7$. If board was very dry you can also bet 1/3 pot or a littlebit more, like 5-6$
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      I did bet $8, luckily he folded. I wonder if the 4bet pre was excessive though.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Maniatrix
      I did bet $8, luckily he folded. I wonder if the 4bet pre was excessive though.
      yeah, quite standard play with AK