Hitting the wall

    • chelnste
      chelnste
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      Joined: 26.05.2011 Posts: 7
      Hi All
      First post this, hope you can empathise.

      Joined this site in late june and took my $50 to Party poker. Now I have maybe 3 years experience mostly playing live in a pub league, although bumping along on sky online. I found the recommended $1 games no good for me as I dont like turbo or speed games. Using the knowledge gained from PS plus my own experience I quickly moved to $6 sng stt. By the end of July I had $250
      So far so good. At this point I decided to make sure I could cash out. Only took $30. That worked no problem. THEN! Despite not changing my stratedgy I went on a loosing streak and got as low as $150 before rallying back. Coincidence straight after the cashout ?????

      i now find I am bumping between $170 and $210. Cant seem to get above this Tried moving up to $11 but only getting same result.

      So, I have good sucess followed by hitting the wall.
  • 8 replies
    • mongomob
      mongomob
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      Joined: 27.03.2011 Posts: 156
      Coincidence straight after the cashout ?????


      yupp...
    • Castle93
      Castle93
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      Joined: 06.06.2011 Posts: 1,452
      Ill take the quote mongomob said, you cant think like that if yu cash out you ll ended up losing alot of money, i cashed out half my BR on stars as i needed to pay for something, it was just profit i made in that week so i wasnt too bothered, and it didnt doomswitch me :P
    • sdchamp123
      sdchamp123
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      Joined: 12.02.2009 Posts: 21

      i now find I am bumping between $170 and $210. Cant seem to get above this Tried moving up to $11 but only getting same result.
      I have the same exact problem what do you do ?
    • Scooney
      Scooney
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      Joined: 14.08.2011 Posts: 104
      Well if you've been bumping around with the same amount for a couple of months I guess you're breaking even, not too bad playing SnGs. You dropped down a bit fine, just a downswing, happens to everybody and you shouldn't worry about it. Be encouraged you didn't drop like a stone and bust, tilt can be a bitch.

      As for how to get back to winning ways, maybe look back at your games from back in June to when you won $200. Try and see if theres anything you're doing differently now - maybe playing a bit more cautiously after your downswing? If you can see a difference, try and get back to playing that way. If you're playing effective poker, you WILL win in the long run.

      The fact that you feel like you've 'hit a wall' it sounds as though you've been affected mentally by it, so you need to try and tackle that side as well as correct any technical mistakes you're making.

      Gl :)
    • sdchamp123
      sdchamp123
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      Joined: 12.02.2009 Posts: 21
      Thanks a lot for the good response :)
      Started last year with 50$ at WH.
      Later on i won the 10k freeroll with 20k players = 1,35k$
      I withdrew everything weeks later (Never played with the grand prize) so still a bankroll around 50$ (ps.com starting capital)
      I started half year later with 200$ playing 1$ sng-9/10max
      An i have now played 5 months at 1-2$ sng until some weeks ago i started Sng-MTT-45/90/180 1-2,5$
      Today i ran so hot, that i decided to register for a 4,50$ 180 and i ended up on the 2nd place and now have a bankroll on 367$
      afterwords i start playing sng-mtt 45 now 3,50$ and now im beating it hard!
      Hope it will continuate like that :)
    • ghaleon
      ghaleon
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      Joined: 17.10.2007 Posts: 5,877
      Originally posted by chelnste
      Hi All
      First post this, hope you can empathise.

      Joined this site in late june and took my $50 to Party poker. Now I have maybe 3 years experience mostly playing live in a pub league, although bumping along on sky online. I found the recommended $1 games no good for me as I dont like turbo or speed games. Using the knowledge gained from PS plus my own experience I quickly moved to $6 sng stt. By the end of July I had $250
      So far so good. At this point I decided to make sure I could cash out. Only took $30. That worked no problem. THEN! Despite not changing my stratedgy I went on a loosing streak and got as low as $150 before rallying back. Coincidence straight after the cashout ?????

      i now find I am bumping between $170 and $210. Cant seem to get above this Tried moving up to $11 but only getting same result.

      So, I have good sucess followed by hitting the wall.
      So you went down whole 12buyin... You should understand that this is standard and happen frequently to clearly winning players as well. Also much bigger downswings should be expected to happen. That is reason why aggressive bankroll management has pretty high risk. Moving up to 11$ games playing with 15-20 bin bankroll is definitely the wrong way and can be defined as gambling. You are just increasing risk to go bust.

      It might be that you just went into nice upswing at start and now the reality is catching up. Anyway I think your sample size is way too low to define are you winning, breakeven or losing player.

      Proper limit for your current bankroll is at max 6$ games, but safe choice would be 3$ ones.
    • sdchamp123
      sdchamp123
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      Joined: 12.02.2009 Posts: 21
      Have been down to 125$ (-80BI) sometimes took it as variance/downswing and worked my way up.
      And i know play the 3,5$ mtt-sng 45 with my bankroll on 370$
    • lennyCro
      lennyCro
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      Joined: 22.04.2010 Posts: 78
      It probably is a coincidence but that happens me on PP a lot. I don't wanna say that site is rigged but playing there for a 2 years now made me think that their rng has something with players winnings/cashouts. Maybe I'm totally wrong but sometimes i really think something's strange... For i.e. hands like AKvsAJ, flop K57. It happens so many times that turn and river comes QT. I know one can say "that happens, its poker etc" but on party it happens lil bit too often on stts.

      I wanted to open this kind of argue many months ago but i already know ur answers. But fck me if their RNG hasn't something with player winnings.
      I am software engineer and maybe i thing much on that way. I thought about programming little online casino in my country and I am sure that my rng would take player stats (winnings, cashouts etc) in calculation. That's mechanism for holding ppl on my site (first you let them win, then u take their br piece by piece while letting other players win and so on). If you think about party as a casino then this things could easily be true.

      Maybe I am totally wrong but again....