8-game Stud8 TRIPLE C/R

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    • goldchess
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      This hand is sooo weird, I think you are way overestimating its strength at so many points compared to his board. Also 3rd street should just be a snap-fold imo.
    • chenny8888
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      4th and 5th are both semibluffs. i think i can rep pair aces pretty well on 4th and 5th my hand i felt was strong enough equity wise. i don't hate folding 3rd i just felt this player would give up often enough on later streets
    • goldchess
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      disclaimer: im not by any means remotely good at stud8


      I don't understand why you are trying to semi-bluff him, since I don't see him folding this board hardly ever. Especially when he 3bets you on 4th, he probably has 4 to a low with a draw to high, or the odd 888 or 666. Then he gins on 5th and you randomly put in 4bets for no reason when hes never folding his hand?
    • chenny8888
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      on 4th i rep AAxx allowing me to get him to fold 66xx and 88xx type hands if he calls my c/r on 4th and blanks 5th.

      on 5th i just felt my equity was decent with a clean 85 low draw and my 2pair outs.

      fwiw against his monster hand i still have

      dead cards: 9h 9s js
      Hand Equity Scoops Wins Hi Ties Hi Wins Lo Ties Lo
      8h 4d 4c as 5c 45.34% 101,808 327,595 675 216,080 61
      3h 6h 8d 7h 5d 54.66% 157,935 271,730 675 383,859 61

      against rolled up anything i have 34% though

      hmm. seems like a c/c 5th. i still like my play on 6th and river though.
    • Steelbrewer
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      4th and 5th are both semibluffs. i think i can rep pair aces pretty well on 4th and 5th


      That's why it is actually easier for him to continue if he thinks you have AA or even better Aces up/trips (since you overrepping your hand) and you are going for high then he pretty much has a lock on low end and a decent chance of winning both parts if he hits.

      The most weird part is 7th IMHO when he bets out he knows he is winning at least one of the sides otherwise he would just check behind assuming the action on previous streets and he will hardly ever bluff therefore it's pretty ambitious to c/r here.
    • Ribbo
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      Good evaluation, can't argue with any of it. :f_biggrin:
    • chenny8888
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      good hand too? titled "how to put in lots of bets in a structured game whilst winning at most half of the pot"
    • MarcPS
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      Originally posted by Steelbrewer
      4th and 5th are both semibluffs. i think i can rep pair aces pretty well on 4th and 5th


      That's why it is actually easier for him to continue if he thinks you have AA or even better Aces up/trips (since you overrepping your hand) and you are going for high then he pretty much has a lock on low end and a decent chance of winning both parts if he hits.

      The most weird part is 7th IMHO when he bets out he knows he is winning at least one of the sides otherwise he would just check behind assuming the action on previous streets and he will hardly ever bluff therefore it's pretty ambitious to c/r here.
      solid analysis.

      as a note, when a 'nit' is putting 4 bets in, you can probably stop trying to semi bluff him ;)