how do you train with equity trainer?

    • cpers
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      Hey guys how do you use the equity trainer anyway?
      I know how to use it but what I want to know is how do you exactly train yourself to guess/calculate equity correctly using equity trainer so it can be used during session.

      Do you use equilab to get the equity, calculate the equity manually like in a piece of paper, or just guess with experience?

      Like your opinions here...

      thanks,
      cpers :spade:
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    • patszerdonk
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      I use it occasionally, but I dont sure if it's useful or not. I think Villain tendencies/stats postflop is more important.

      For example:
      We are raise on UTG preflop, BB call. Flop xyz and from what we train with Equilab, we estimated our equity 50%. Now, what to do? Depend on Villain HUD stats. If we change the flop, and our equity change to 30% or 70% our action still depend on Villain tendencies. So, in my opinion Equlab trainer is not very useful.

      Of course it depends also on types of your game, your image, etc.


      Do you use equilab to get the equity, calculate the equity manually like in a piece of paper, or just guess with experience?


      I just guess it to get feeling about type of flops. How much my equity with KsJs versus 15%?, How if I flop top pair? How if the flop AK6? How if the flop Q72? etc. etc.
    • cpers
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      I tried to calculate it manually but it's too tiring :D
      I guess it's better to train it by evaluating hands and get the equity with the range that you put on the villain.

      Thanks for the info.
    • Jim4rdo
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      Thanks for helping out patszer :)
    • jamballah
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      What do you guys think about the predefined ranges?

      I think the BB ranges for defending against late position raises are ridiculously loose.
    • MarcPS
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      Originally posted by jamballah
      What do you guys think about the predefined ranges?

      I think the BB ranges for defending against late position raises are ridiculously loose.
      What makes you say that?

      I mean, since late position will be opening wide (we assume), we should be calling wide (but not as wide as the open because we play OOP without initiative).

      Does that make sense?

      Of course, everything requires finetuning to your individual style of play ;)
    • jamballah
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      Originally posted by MarcPS

      What makes you say that?

      I mean, since late position will be opening wide (we assume), we should be calling wide (but not as wide as the open because we play OOP without initiative).

      Does that make sense?

      Of course, everything requires finetuning to your individual style of play ;)
      Hmm. This is the range "Big Blind Defence | Call vs. BU Open Raise":
      33-22, A5s-A2s, KTs-K2s, Q2s+, J3s+, T4s+, 95s+, 84s+, 74s+, 63s+, 53s+, 43s, A7o-A2o, KTo-K4o, Q8o+, J8o+, T8o+, 97o+, 87o, 76o

      This is "Open Raising Chart | BU":
      33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T8s+, 98s, 87s, 76s, A2o+, K7o+, Q9o+, J9o+

      Your calling range is much wider than button's raising range.
    • datsmahname
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      i do 10 minute blitz sessions against pre defined hand ranges vs every hand i might conceivably VPIP preflop. my goal is 100 questions with <5% average difference.