Poker Tells: PILLARS OF READING

    • CrankTells
      CrankTells
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      PILLARS OF READING

      What elements does reading of opponents consist of? Talking about observation, attention etc. is simply talking. Let us keep to the point.

      For one thing, experienced players nicely determine the so-called constant. This term stipulates an ordinary opponent’s behavior and/or state. This a quite general set of habits of how to approve oneself: the way he laughs, grieves, communicates etc. Any change observed against this conditionally neutral background (constant) makes us fall into a muse.

      The opponent can discuss any issues; debate and joke. It means to behave in a natural way – a constant. However, suddenly he becomes continently concentrated, his eyes are hard, and he perks, leaning with his lower arms on the cushion – a change. It is a quite general remark, but you are ready to say, "He is ready for a grave opposition.”

      Let us have a look at pix. What could the constant look like? A scene from “Russian Fight”, episode one, Denis Kuznetsov:

      http://i019.radikal.ru/1108/38/c8cea751b220.jpg

      It is a quite widespread and stable expression, which can be called neutral, as it provides no useful information. However, Erik Seidel bets and …
      http://i003.radikal.ru/1108/2d/1565d69bdcba.jpg

      Eyebrows are lifted up, as if the player is surprised. As readers say, “The constant is broken." We can see a change. What does it mean? The question is appropriate, as amazement can be observed both under negative and positive circumstances. Thus, we have touched upon changes, which are generally associated directly with tells. In this case, a considerable sensitiveness is required. It is dangerous to make hasty conclusions. For example, amateurs think that touching one’s face or neck is a signal of bluff. What is the crucial mistake?

      I repeat, “There are no individual hints. It is always a system, where time and place of appearance is of great importance.” Many people overlook the whole pattern. For example, according to statistics a smile of Phil Ivey during the hand is a sign of strength. It is true, but not completely. There are dozens of different smiles! It means that a word “smile” is acceptable only in the form of colligation, as a term, which is not a particular hint. The opponent’s attitude to his competitor is of great importance: who or what he laughs at. We consider an amount of stakes and bidding round.

      The situation is the same with scratching and stroking of something. If the gesture refers to a constant (the person is in habit of kneading his neck periodically!), it provides miserable useful information. I would like to underline the importance of the background (constant), against which we observe any changes. If the gesture does not refer to a constant, it is necessary to point out previous games as well as additional hints in order to determine the tell: weakness or strength.

      Thus, talking about changes we can point out the major difference between professional and amateur readers. Professionals know a wide range of general tells, and they actually practiced to notice them. They spent a lot of time working hard with pix and videos. The program of training includes special games as well. In other words, a professional has more knowledge about changes. He can notice appearances that are even more delicate. Therefore, we can talk about faster and more effective scanning of opponents. However, let us talk about the major secret of training next time…

      The fact that Kuznetsov calls, suggests the most likely conclusion: he is strong and has a combination. It is time for Erik Seidel to look about. The dealer lays out the next street. Erik understands the situation – check. And the next scene, where the Russian goes all in:
      http://s007.radikal.ru/i302/1108/96/c6444a3304d3.jpg

      Compare it with the constant illustration (the first picture). Now it is not necessary to be smart and sharp-eyed. Challenge, pleasure and superiority are obvious. One pedal is gas and the other is oil. Three sheets to the wind and fireworks in the head. He is a very fair person.

      A simple example underlines the importance of the background. Here behavioral changes are more extensional and vivid. That is why the constant can be compared to a canvas, representing hints. The constant helps to create a contrast. Old hands in the game (mostly unwittingly) quickly determine opponent’s distinctive features. They use it as a basis for strength and weakness identification. If the opponent is familiar, the task becomes far less complicated.

      From the very start, we have observed the idea of constants. There are three of them in practice.

      The first: a general constant. A background used for noticing changes (tells).

      The second: a constant of strength. Regular systems of hints verifying availability of combinations/hands. I will try to explain the notion. People tend to approve themselves in an ordinary way. It is conditioned by psychophysiology and upbringing. Stability of habits can be particularly explained by “self-preservation instinct”. Those things, that help you to survive, consolidate firmly. And it takes valid reasons in order to reject any behavioral patterns.

      The third: a constant of weakness. Regular systems of hints verifying a negative estimate of situation. The knowledge is practical in terms of timely attacks and counterattacks. It is closely connected with the notion of opponent’s fold equity and bluff disclosure.

      In this respect, one should remember that reading is simply an element of a strong player training. The word “element” indicates the absence of advantage in what we call proficiency. No one cancelled the technique of games, as well as further development and absorption of what gives you an advantage.
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    • CRI4BRA
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      YES, OMG

      this is the single beneficial thing i read all day

      have to pass through x2 times to digest this gem :s_evil:

      thank you sir
    • NightFrostaSS
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      Gems? Gems are truly outrageous. They are truly, truly, truly outrageous.
    • BigOVERBET
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      boner
    • CrankTells
      CrankTells
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      In the wake of disgust

      The article deals with the technique of reading, thus, it may seem slightly unemotional. But it fully satisfies the interests of players who are in fact striving to improve their skills. And I would like to warn that I support those who take the assurances of the reliability of any tells with great prudence. Now, only romantic people are able to believe in this. During the years of research, I have personally encountered only two coach hints for which I could not find any contrary example until now. Maybe I'll find. The remaining hints change their meanings quite easily that is why the reading technique is a must.

      They often share links to the different articles on tells with me. Friends and colleagues know that I have been dealing with issues of reading during more than one year and on a regular basis. So, I have learned that Nicolas Fradet sometimes shares his experience on "2 +2". Perhaps, it is a very modern way to present materials in, say, optimistic manner. This seems like the author avoids focusing on the fact that any hint has a hidden agenda. In one case it may mean nothing, in another one it is a sign of strength, then, a sign of weakness, etc. Thus, I disagree with his way to present the materials. Let us consider, for example, the article Disgust. Here is a snapshot taken from it:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/21626988.png

      Now, pay attention to the lips. We will reconsider them later on. A face can look in this way if a person has seen or smelled something very unappetizing. This is just one case. There is a nuance. Facial gesture displays not only emotions. We use it to express any thoughts, attitudes to the situations as well. In other words, it is a full-fledged apparatus for communication. We kind of emphasize important phrases or encourage our interlocutor by our eyebrows raised, pull grimaces, giving wordless answers. What we show is not emotions. We kind of gesticulate using “the emblems of emotions.” Let us see another picture for you again to pay attention to the activity of the lips:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/48118073.jpg

      The expression of despite/disgust has other twins, in addition to the emblems. It can be confused with sniffing, contained sneezing... From the above it is obvious: we should be able to separate the husk from the grain. In other words, before one confirms anything, one should determine: whether we see a hint or something unimportant, a tell or not a tell. It can be found out by just one way – by identifying a common constant. If an expression is usual for the opponent, is periodically shown during communications as a typical feature, then it is less informative and unreliable.

      But let us reconsider the lips. They tend to be everted (both or only the lower lip), don’t they? You can try to make the face in front of a mirror, as if you have felt a bad smell and want to exhale: “Ough!” And then, in order to compare those expressions, sniff as if you cleanse the nose by abruptly breathing air. Then your face will look somewhat like this:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/75029195.png

      The lips are closed more tightly. Many people like Negreanu tend to have their lips rolled inside. Sniffing itself is very short in duration. Just fractions of a second. These are two very similar expressions, but the external difference is in the movements of the lips. Now, read the statement made by Nicholas Fradet for the picture of Daniel: “But there is no denying it; we can see wrinkles in the upper area of the nose and a slight raising of the upper lip: disgust.” These words surprised many people as the upper lip has not been or is lifted!

      Let us suppose that Daniel is an exception to the rules and he is used to express disgust in an atypical way. Let us assume that his disgust is very similar to sniffing. But in order to say this, it is necessary to analyze more than one deal. And if we ask those who have done something of this kind they would say firmly: Negreanu got steady used to express his disgust/despite asymmetrically. Personally, I affirm this based on the analysis of hundreds of deals with his participation.

      Strictly speaking, everyone may require hard evidences to be presented, as I have declared figures. It is not a problem. Those who are interested can write to me a personal message. I will provide a link to download free lessons on the basics of facial reading where the issue is easily solved. Thus, I have a lot of arguments: videos, pictures. Here, I provide one picture of Daniel’s specific manifestation of disgust/despite:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/23000678.png

      Now we can see how the left nasolabial fold rises slightly, causing the upper lip to be curved. It is so specific to this player. There is another observation. Daniel sniffs exactly in such a manner as shown in Picture 3! In other words, there are so many facts that we have to reject the idea of his disgust.

      From this point of view the following piece of advice seems to be ill-judged: “So if you were sitting in Doyle’s position and happen to see that expression in Daniel’s face, you should bet for sure.” Indeed, the realities make us to recognize sniffing. Thus, we do not know yet what we can see: a tell or not a tell.

      We can solve this problem by considering the video. Now, it is not worth checking out the speaker system because the sound is immediately excluded in the study of facial expressions and gestures. In addition, commentators provide with the information about the hands. And in case of training people to read facial expressions it is unacceptable. We do not know your opponents’ cards – and the full stop. Let us keep closer to the facts. Also, I have covered the hands with a black square. At 01:28 there is a slow motion replay of what Nicolas Fradet called the micro-expression of disgust. We are going to particularly focus on this fragment.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2ovpg36dfM



      First, does sniffing relate to the common constant? No, because Negreanu does not do so in excess. He does not have the compulsive movement syndrome. The common constant is established in this context. As it turned out, not everyone is able to notice without delay that Daniel sniffs twice in a row.

      Is it a tell or not? In this case it should be attributed as a hint because this "gesture" does not belong to the common constant. Moreover, he has obviously done this too often (twice per second). That is, stress exists now. As excitement can be manifested both in case of strength and weakness, we have to determine the tell: what does it evidence?

      Note that we are still in a mode which I call “the healthy research ignorance” because there is little information to draw conclusions. But we do not associate our desires with the realities. We just do not know where to incline. What will help us then? We should not refer the game image for a while as Negreanu’s range often is very wide. The hand can be described as "whatever." We can add that Negreanu does not constrain himself to play only according to the opponents taking into consideration the whole alignment of forces.

      A view from Canada might be of help, mightn’t it? “Doyle reaches for his chips. Obviously annoyed by the turn card, and that Doyle might have sucked out on him, Daniel shows a micro-expression… Even if we can’t usually tell for sure why a person feels a certain emotion, we can probably assume that it’s because Daniel saw something he did not like. The fact that Doyle bets into two players increases the chances he’s got a piece of the board, and that that turn card might have hurt Daniel.”

      Repetition of three is unlikely to be able to have improved Brunson’s hand, who plays fairly carefully. If it could have improve someone’s position, it could be Daniel most probably – it’s he who can attack with a pre-flop from small connectors or gap connectors ... Well, the only valuable remark is that the player started to sniff when he was watching the opponent’s preparation of the attack. And we still have one of the most reliable sources of information – other tells. Why? Because it is dangerous to rely on the single hints. Along the way, we name mistakes, which we could have made as well:

      1. The common constant is not determined.
      2. One expression can be confused with another.
      3. An expression is immediately taken for a tell.
      4. An expression is immediately taken for a sign of weakness.
      5. An expression is considered as an independent unit. However, hints often constitute a system where particular tells can change the meanings.

      What contributes to such an approach? The example can be classified as a complex one because a number of important factors are involved. And one should be able to maneuver among them. This is the case where the risk of erroneous interpretations is high not only for beginners. We won’t hurry. The good news is that some people have already understood: tells can be compared with the alphabet. And it is better to learn to read than to look for a deeper meaning in the letters themselves.

      Supplement. The article “Disgust” contains an example involving Stan Goldstein. A situation on the flop is described where a player does so, pronouncing the "check":

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/88492709.png

      And once again, the statement is offered that this is disgust as the nasolabial fold has moved up, pulling the upper lip up as well. Unfortunately, if the constant is not known they rush again. The picture can be an illustration of how disgust can be expressed. But in this particular case even such brilliant researchers of facial gesture as Paul Ekman cannot affirm this definitely. Experts immediately set a range of questions. Is he a smoker? After all, smokers manifest the effect of "a lazy lip." The habit of having a cigarette in the mouth alters one’s articulation. Has he ever had a disease of the facial nerve which influenced the nature of facial movements? And so on and so on.

      However, the players do not care much for the reason of such articulation. It is important whether the expression belongs to any of the constants. If it is a common constant then it is uninformative, it is not a tell. If it is a constant of strength, it is necessary to be more vigilant, more cautious. If it is a constant of weakness we can be more confident: fold equity is high, it will not stand aggression.

      Note that once again I do not name Stan Goldstein’s cards deliberately. When knowing the hands it is easy to fall into a psychological trap by making instant conclusions – it is the illusion of a special knowledge that results in losses of time and money in a real game. We often can hear commentators to disapprove the players’ actions while forgetting that they judge based on their knowledge of the hands – while this information is unavailable to those who are then at the table. But now we are closer to life, we ask right questions and acquire a professional, productive thinking of a facial reader. First, it is unusual and difficult. Then a difficult task becomes easy. And an easy thing becomes beautiful.

      So, I just disagreed with the contents of the article. I tried to provide reasoned arguments, because poker is initially bears risks. Players need proven information to be more successful. And trainers must protect them from mistakes. That’ll do for today. But as chance offers we will review in more detail an example of the strife between Negreanu and Brunson which is difficult for facial reading.
    • EmilDahlman
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      Ok i don't understand shit :tongue:
    • BigOVERBET
      BigOVERBET
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      Originally posted by EmilDahlman
      Ok i don't understand shit :tongue:
      youre not the only one my friend :f_biggrin:
    • CrankTells
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      A SMILE OF ERIK SEIDEL

      Everyone is successful in a certain sphere while the others are wondering and willing to have the same skills. Poker is not an exception. My former best skills proved useful from the moment when I became interested in the game. Thus a smile of delight appears itself. Let us have a look at smiles of opponents. Who will we start with? Let Erik Seidel smile at us:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/04304355.png

      Everyone who agrees with the fact that it is a pleasure to see somebody’s lips edges lifting up either while greeting, or during the conversation, give a nod. In a literal sense – give a nod. Let us make a smiling Erik pleased. Especially as at the moment the situation does not seem funny to him. Or someone actually believed in sincerity of his emotion?

      We do not need to know all the details of game situation in order to say that at this moment an eminent player is in real trouble. It takes a keen disappointment to smile like this. There is a mask on his face, which meanly conceals a number (!) of negative feelings. Even disgust is among them. However, we do not need to know all the nuances of their demonstration in order to find ourselves as favorites of the hand. Only one (!) sign can make us go all-in.

      Of course there are more signs, as readers have to use systems of tells in order to precisely verify the state of opponents. In this case, it is extremely obvious that greater zygomatic muscles are completely inactive. But when a person feels happy and pleased they are always involved. I will simply point it in order not to waste time:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/18545184.png

      Oh, what a pleasure to look at him! Cheeks are lifted up in a completely other way. It means that the pleasure is sincere. I would not definitely like to see such a smile after a hand. And if it happens, we’d better withdraw with such a celerity that will make Jim Kerry feel jealous.

      Naturally, such demonstrations of emotions, as the second picture shows, take place quite seldom. However, the greater zygomatic muscle continues to expose not a single trickster, hiding a monster in his sleeve. Those who read my notes before know that there are dozens of different smiles. And still it is senseless to consider all of them, as more frequently they are interpreted on the basis of combination with the other facial muscles. And this topic goes far beyond the scope of this article.

      By the way, many people misbelieve that they are able to recognize false and sincere smiles. Results of experiments are of random nature, as if tested persons simply try to guess what those pix reflect. I am sure that in the first picture the majority considered Erik Seidel’s pleasure as a shiny coin. Thus, it is better to get back to classics. What does a sincere smile look like?

      The description might seem boring, but at least it is obviously professional. And the word "professional” means that you acquire valuable information. And it is pleasant indeed. So, below you will find features of a smile, which might be referred to a sincere positive emotion:

      1. An important feature – a greater zygomatic muscle, which lifts cheeks upwards, is active.
      2. An important and dim feature – in case of a wide smile eyebrows are lowered (scarcely noticeable).
      3. A sincere smile is mostly symmetrical.
      4. Wrinkles and baggy lower eyelids are more explicit.
      5. The so called crow’s feet appear or become more explicit on the outer edges of eyes.
      6. The eyes are pursy.
      7. A sincere smile is more stable. Dramatic changes are not typical of it.

      Even such a general consideration of smiles makes you stronger. Therefore, below you will find a little test and try to guess yourself which picture represents bluff and which а sincere pleasure:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/36645006.png

      And the second picture:

      http://cranktells.ucoz.com/_pu/0/91163934.png

      I intentionally provided different shooting angles and methods of demonstration. Furthermore, those who used to perform such tasks know that I like to set traps. In other words, both pictures can reflect sincerity or bluff. That is why you will have to be more attentive. Good luck!

      P.S. The main point is not a correct answer, but the difficulties you have faced. It is a rule: correction of weaknesses makes us stronger. Therefore, minuses are enjoyable as they provide an opportunity to cross them. And this is a plus.
    • TakeManies
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      is this real life?
    • clawindsouza
      clawindsouza
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      haha can the mods pls put the pics in the thread instead of directing them to another site...

      ive read the article on another site posted by the same guy (cranktells)...its aa good read when you see the pics..
    • thazar
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      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      haha can the mods pls put the pics in the thread instead of directing them to another site...

      ive read the article on another site posted by the same guy (cranktells)...its aa good read when you see the pics..
      at the moment I don't see anyway others than OP getting a tracked account and becoming bronze and then we can edit. otherwise the pics would have to be in different posts and not in the content. I am inquiring though to see if there is a different way I am not thinking of.

      I have also moved the thread to "General Poker Discussion" as it seem to be more appropriate

      Regards

      Thazar
    • matel17
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      How about introducing an exception when it is actually beneficial?
    • IngridN
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      Originally posted by CrankTells
      PILLARS OF READING

      What elements does reading of opponents consist of? Talking about observation, attention etc. is simply talking. Let us keep to the point.

      For one thing, experienced players nicely determine the so-called constant. This term stipulates an ordinary opponent’s behavior and/or state. This a quite general set of habits of how to approve oneself: the way he laughs, grieves, communicates etc. Any change observed against this conditionally neutral background (constant) makes us fall into a muse.

      The opponent can discuss any issues; debate and joke. It means to behave in a natural way – a constant. However, suddenly he becomes continently concentrated, his eyes are hard, and he perks, leaning with his lower arms on the cushion – a change. It is a quite general remark, but you are ready to say, "He is ready for a grave opposition.”

      Let us have a look at pix. What could the constant look like? A scene from “Russian Fight”, episode one, Denis Kuznetsov:



      It is a quite widespread and stable expression, which can be called neutral, as it provides no useful information. However, Erik Seidel bets and …



      Eyebrows are lifted up, as if the player is surprised. As readers say, “The constant is broken." We can see a change. What does it mean? The question is appropriate, as amazement can be observed both under negative and positive circumstances. Thus, we have touched upon changes, which are generally associated directly with tells. In this case, a considerable sensitiveness is required. It is dangerous to make hasty conclusions. For example, amateurs think that touching one’s face or neck is a signal of bluff. What is the crucial mistake?

      I repeat, “There are no individual hints. It is always a system, where time and place of appearance is of great importance.” Many people overlook the whole pattern. For example, according to statistics a smile of Phil Ivey during the hand is a sign of strength. It is true, but not completely. There are dozens of different smiles! It means that a word “smile” is acceptable only in the form of colligation, as a term, which is not a particular hint. The opponent’s attitude to his competitor is of great importance: who or what he laughs at. We consider an amount of stakes and bidding round.

      The situation is the same with scratching and stroking of something. If the gesture refers to a constant (the person is in habit of kneading his neck periodically!), it provides miserable useful information. I would like to underline the importance of the background (constant), against which we observe any changes. If the gesture does not refer to a constant, it is necessary to point out previous games as well as additional hints in order to determine the tell: weakness or strength.

      Thus, talking about changes we can point out the major difference between professional and amateur readers. Professionals know a wide range of general tells, and they actually practiced to notice them. They spent a lot of time working hard with pix and videos. The program of training includes special games as well. In other words, a professional has more knowledge about changes. He can notice appearances that are even more delicate. Therefore, we can talk about faster and more effective scanning of opponents. However, let us talk about the major secret of training next time…

      The fact that Kuznetsov calls, suggests the most likely conclusion: he is strong and has a combination. It is time for Erik Seidel to look about. The dealer lays out the next street. Erik understands the situation – check. And the next scene, where the Russian goes all in:



      Compare it with the constant illustration (the first picture). Now it is not necessary to be smart and sharp-eyed. Challenge, pleasure and superiority are obvious. One pedal is gas and the other is oil. Three sheets to the wind and fireworks in the head. He is a very fair person.

      A simple example underlines the importance of the background. Here behavioral changes are more extensional and vivid. That is why the constant can be compared to a canvas, representing hints. The constant helps to create a contrast. Old hands in the game (mostly unwittingly) quickly determine opponent’s distinctive features. They use it as a basis for strength and weakness identification. If the opponent is familiar, the task becomes far less complicated.

      From the very start, we have observed the idea of constants. There are three of them in practice.

      The first: a general constant. A background used for noticing changes (tells).

      The second: a constant of strength. Regular systems of hints verifying availability of combinations/hands. I will try to explain the notion. People tend to approve themselves in an ordinary way. It is conditioned by psychophysiology and upbringing. Stability of habits can be particularly explained by “self-preservation instinct”. Those things, that help you to survive, consolidate firmly. And it takes valid reasons in order to reject any behavioral patterns.

      The third: a constant of weakness. Regular systems of hints verifying a negative estimate of situation. The knowledge is practical in terms of timely attacks and counterattacks. It is closely connected with the notion of opponent’s fold equity and bluff disclosure.

      In this respect, one should remember that reading is simply an element of a strong player training. The word “element” indicates the absence of advantage in what we call proficiency. No one cancelled the technique of games, as well as further development and absorption of what gives you an advantage.
    • IngridN
      IngridN
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      Joined: 02.03.2011 Posts: 12,162
      Originally posted by CrankTells
      A SMILE OF ERIK SEIDEL

      Everyone is successful in a certain sphere while the others are wondering and willing to have the same skills. Poker is not an exception. My former best skills proved useful from the moment when I became interested in the game. Thus a smile of delight appears itself. Let us have a look at smiles of opponents. Who will we start with? Let Erik Seidel smile at us:



      Everyone who agrees with the fact that it is a pleasure to see somebody’s lips edges lifting up either while greeting, or during the conversation, give a nod. In a literal sense – give a nod. Let us make a smiling Erik pleased. Especially as at the moment the situation does not seem funny to him. Or someone actually believed in sincerity of his emotion?

      We do not need to know all the details of game situation in order to say that at this moment an eminent player is in real trouble. It takes a keen disappointment to smile like this. There is a mask on his face, which meanly conceals a number (!) of negative feelings. Even disgust is among them. However, we do not need to know all the nuances of their demonstration in order to find ourselves as favorites of the hand. Only one (!) sign can make us go all-in.

      Of course there are more signs, as readers have to use systems of tells in order to precisely verify the state of opponents. In this case, it is extremely obvious that greater zygomatic muscles are completely inactive. But when a person feels happy and pleased they are always involved. I will simply point it in order not to waste time:



      Oh, what a pleasure to look at him! Cheeks are lifted up in a completely other way. It means that the pleasure is sincere. I would not definitely like to see such a smile after a hand. And if it happens, we’d better withdraw with such a celerity that will make Jim Kerry feel jealous.

      Naturally, such demonstrations of emotions, as the second picture shows, take place quite seldom. However, the greater zygomatic muscle continues to expose not a single trickster, hiding a monster in his sleeve. Those who read my notes before know that there are dozens of different smiles. And still it is senseless to consider all of them, as more frequently they are interpreted on the basis of combination with the other facial muscles. And this topic goes far beyond the scope of this article.

      By the way, many people misbelieve that they are able to recognize false and sincere smiles. Results of experiments are of random nature, as if tested persons simply try to guess what those pix reflect. I am sure that in the first picture the majority considered Erik Seidel’s pleasure as a shiny coin. Thus, it is better to get back to classics. What does a sincere smile look like?

      The description might seem boring, but at least it is obviously professional. And the word "professional” means that you acquire valuable information. And it is pleasant indeed. So, below you will find features of a smile, which might be referred to a sincere positive emotion:

      1. An important feature – a greater zygomatic muscle, which lifts cheeks upwards, is active.
      2. An important and dim feature – in case of a wide smile eyebrows are lowered (scarcely noticeable).
      3. A sincere smile is mostly symmetrical.
      4. Wrinkles and baggy lower eyelids are more explicit.
      5. The so called crow’s feet appear or become more explicit on the outer edges of eyes.
      6. The eyes are pursy.
      7. A sincere smile is more stable. Dramatic changes are not typical of it.

      Even such a general consideration of smiles makes you stronger. Therefore, below you will find a little test and try to guess yourself which picture represents bluff and which а sincere pleasure:



      And the second picture:



      I intentionally provided different shooting angles and methods of demonstration. Furthermore, those who used to perform such tasks know that I like to set traps. In other words, both pictures can reflect sincerity or bluff. That is why you will have to be more attentive. Good luck!

      P.S. The main point is not a correct answer, but the difficulties you have faced. It is a rule: correction of weaknesses makes us stronger. Therefore, minuses are enjoyable as they provide an opportunity to cross them. And this is a plus.
    • IngridN
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      there you go guys :heart:
    • clawindsouza
      clawindsouza
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      Originally posted by thazar

      at the moment I don't see anyway others than OP getting a tracked account and becoming bronze and then we can edit. otherwise the pics would have to be in different posts and not in the content. I am inquiring though to see if there is a different way I am not thinking of.


      what would we have done without Ingrid :s_love:
    • IngridN
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      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      Originally posted by thazar

      at the moment I don't see anyway others than OP getting a tracked account and becoming bronze and then we can edit. otherwise the pics would have to be in different posts and not in the content. I am inquiring though to see if there is a different way I am not thinking of.


      what would we have done without Ingrid :s_love:
      its more, what would I have done with out thazar bringing this thread to my attention :)
    • TarmoK
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      Vey nice post !