[NL2-NL10] [MSS SH] AJo - flop J88

    • viccini
      viccini
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      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 337
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      20 hands


      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($7.95)
      UTG+1 ($8.46)
      viccini (CO) ($4.74)
      BTN ($15.89)
      SB ($10.05)
      BB ($2.14)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 6 players) viccini is CO A:club: J:heart:
      2 folds, viccini raises to $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, 2 folds

      Flop: J:diamond: 8:diamond: 8:heart: ($0.65, 2 players)
      viccini bets $0.48, BTN calls $0.48

      Turn: 10:spade: ($1.61, 2 players)
      viccini checks, BTN bets $0.80, viccini calls $0.80

      River: 2:heart: ($3.21, 2 players)
      viccini checks, BTN checks

      Final Pot: $3.21
      viccini shows
      A:club: J:heart:
      BTN shows
      J:club: K:spade:

      viccini wins $3.05 (net +$1.52)

      BTN lost $1.53

      How would you play this hand?

      Please help me thinking about his flop's hand range. A8s, 98s, 87s, maybe T8s, 86s, KJ, QJ, JT, maybe J9s and sometimes AJ and pocket pairs? Do you think he would raise me with hands like T9s and flushdraws?

      Should I fire the second barrel here? I think he would call me turn+river with KJ, QJ, AJ and maybe J9s only (besides the stronger hands than mine) and fold pocket pairs. If I just check maybe he bets or call a river bet with pocket pairs and when I'm behind I loose less.

      And what if I bet turn and he raises me? Should I fold?

      thx in advance! (and sorry for the bad English... =D)
  • 5 replies
    • vuckom1
      vuckom1
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      Joined: 20.04.2011 Posts: 114
      You should bet/fold the turn, he is calling with FD/SD/Jx.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hello,

      He is calling the Flop with any Jx, T9 , flushdraws+1 over, naked flushdraws and sometimes 8x tho sometimes they raise for value (or minraise)

      When he calls you are way ahead so you have to bet the Turn like $1.4 to get maximum value. Now you can check/raise or check/shove but I wouldn't anticipate a bet from him. clearly valuebetting is maxEV on the Turn

      On the River you have to bet again, this 2 is a super blank

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • viccini
      viccini
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      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 337
      Ok. Got it!

      Only 3 more questions:

      If I bet the turn again and he raises me, should I usually fold?

      When should I use x/raise or x/push in the turn instead of betting again?

      When should I control the pot instead of betting again? When I'm in position in a dry board or do I have to pay attention to something else?

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1550/1/#h2_5
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Originally posted by viccini
      Ok. Got it!

      Only 3 more questions:

      If I bet the turn again and he raises me, should I usually fold?
      I will give you some guideline questions

      Is he ever raising worse?
      If not -> what do we do? what is our equity?
      If yes -> Is our equity sufficient enough to get it in?


      When should I use x/raise or x/push in the turn instead of betting again?
      When he bets draws/semibluffs when you check to them but folds when you bet again


      When should I control the pot instead of betting again? When I'm in position in a dry board or do I have to pay attention to something else?

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1550/1/#h2_5
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/glossary/Pot-Control/

      mostly with your stacksize, you cannot pot control. Especially not with wide ranges
    • viccini
      viccini
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      Joined: 17.02.2011 Posts: 337
      Originally posted by Gerv
      Originally posted by viccini
      Ok. Got it!

      Only 3 more questions:

      If I bet the turn again and he raises me, should I usually fold?
      I will give you some guideline questions

      Is he ever raising worse?
      If not -> what do we do? what is our equity?
      If yes -> Is our equity sufficient enough to get it in?


      When should I use x/raise or x/push in the turn instead of betting again?
      When he bets draws/semibluffs when you check to them but folds when you bet again


      When should I control the pot instead of betting again? When I'm in position in a dry board or do I have to pay attention to something else?

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1550/1/#h2_5
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/glossary/Pot-Control/

      mostly with your stacksize, you cannot pot control. Especially not with wide ranges
      :s_thumbsup: