[NL20-NL50] NL50: SH, blindbattle

    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
      Gold
      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      His stats: 38/18/3.8 over 108 hands,

      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players

      BB: $150.25
      UTG: $62.15
      CO: $47.75
      BTN: $49.25
      Hero (SB): $61.55

      Pre-Flop: 7:heart: A:heart: dealt to Hero (SB)
      3 folds, Hero raises to $2, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

      Flop: ($12) A:club: K:diamond: 7:spade: (2 Players)
      Hero checks, BB checks

      Turn: ($12) 5:heart: (2 Players)
      Hero bets $7.50, BB raises to $15, Hero calls $7.50

      River: ($42) A:diamond: (2 Players)
      Hero bets $26.25, BB raises to $52.50, Hero calls $14.30 and is All-In
  • 12 replies
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      With those stats no way you can put him on AK, AA or KK only. Just bad luck.

      You could reraise the turn, but just calling and donking the river, particularly this one, has to be ok.
    • mungavin
      mungavin
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      Joined: 13.01.2008 Posts: 55
      I dont understand the point of u posting this hand.Esp wen you dont tell us what he had.....!

      What was the reason for posting the hand?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would bet/fold pf.
      Not sure about the turn. Bet/3-bet should be fine, if you put him on AQ, AJ.
      I think bet/call turn, c/c river is also fine.
      On the river you´re beated only by AK, so I would stack here always.
    • curnow
      curnow
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      Joined: 10.10.2007 Posts: 1,039
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      I would bet/fold pf.
      Not sure about the turn. Bet/3-bet should be fine, if you put him on AQ, AJ.
      I think bet/call turn, c/c river is also fine.
      On the river you´re beated only by AK, so I would stack here always.
      pretty much agree with Kaitz

      he must have some thing and the check on the flop may indicate Ks but after that flop its hard to get away from it anyway after hitting two pair

      bet/fold preflop
    • snowylee
      snowylee
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      Joined: 26.01.2007 Posts: 701
      @mungavin: You should never post the results of the hand, perhaps later on after some people have replied, that could be ok, otherwise it's likely you would get replies biased on the result.
    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
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      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Any history between you 2 in blindbattles before? If he does raise your attempts to steal quite often I would 4-bet him preflop.

      As played either donkbet flop or reraise turn and go broke/win a stack :D
    • Cojack123
      Cojack123
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      Joined: 28.08.2006 Posts: 1,569
      fold to 3 bet

      river ~21$ you want to look weak
    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
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      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      I called the 3bet preflop because he really played some loose hands from what I have seen. Didn't had any blindbattles with him before though...

      I didn't donkbet the flop because I wanted to get a bet of him in case he didn't have an A or a King.

      @mungavin: Result: he had AK :) , I asked this hand because:

      1) I wanted to know if my preflop call was ok
      2) The check on the flop was ok
      3) My betting sizes in this particular hand

      There is so much to learn in every hand you play ;)
    • aanty2000
      aanty2000
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      Joined: 22.10.2007 Posts: 484
      is he 3 beting lose enough for you to do this call pf ? . i mean are you sure a 7 is ahead of his range ? what would you do if you just floped top pair and he reraises you or you play check call and he bet bet bet ?
    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      Joined: 08.06.2007 Posts: 2,793
      Playing OOP in a 3-bet pot with A-rag, suited or not, is always a losing play, no matter the opponent.
    • Zeffke
      Zeffke
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      Joined: 17.04.2007 Posts: 1,123
      I don't say A7s was ahead of his range, but I was sure he would pay me off when I hit something like 2pair or better, if he had AQ/AJ for example I'm sure he would have paid me of as well (even without the river A) that's why I sometimes call these hands against loose players, but I never knew if this was a good way of thinking ;)

      Thanks for the comments!
    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      Joined: 08.06.2007 Posts: 2,793
      You have about 1.5% chance (don't know the exact number, but it's somewhere around that) to flop the third ace together with your kicker.
      Now, let's do some calculations:

      98.5% of the time you don't flop 2 pair and lose the 4$ you called preflop: your EV for that is -3.94.
      1.5% of the time you do flop 2 pair and get your opponents' stack in always (which is highly assumptional): your EV for that is +0.75 if his stack is 50$.

      Do the math yourself ;)