Feedback Thread for the Quiz "MSS Quiz (2) - Preflopspots"

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    • queenofdimonds
      queenofdimonds
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      Joined: 19.06.2011 Posts: 10
      i liked it wish they have more
    • vuckom1
      vuckom1
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      Joined: 20.04.2011 Posts: 114
      Example 12:

      we oR to 3bb at CO, BU 3-bets to 6bb.

      When we have info that he 3bets a lot (10%+) what range do you shove? Any PP, AJ, KQs (we block AK, AQ,QQ-KK)? Or do you shove only for value so something like: TT+,AQs+,AQo+ against 10% and tighten up opening range. Thanks.
    • windar021
      windar021
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      Joined: 01.09.2012 Posts: 452
      Hi,

      Just took the quiz and I have a question..

      Problem 13:

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0,05 BB (9-handed)

      Stacks & Stats
      UTG($5)
      UTG+1 ($5)
      MP1 ($2)
      MP2 ($5)
      MP3 ($2)
      CO ($2)
      Button ($2)
      Hero $2
      BB ($2)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9c9d
      MP1 raises to $0.10, 1 fold, MP3 calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero?

      Call (0 Points)
      Fold (0 Points)
      Reraise to $0.70 (1 Points)
      All-In (3 Points)


      Your answer Reraise to $0.70 (1 Points)

      Looking at the starting hands chart, we do not fold here with our 99s versus a MP1 openraise. We also do not call at the same time simply because we can 3bet our hand here.

      That leaves option C & D. Reraising to $0.7 allows a sort of chain reaction: if Mp1 calls, the next player get’s better odds to hit anything he likes to call with. Furthermore we have 5 overcards that we do not want to see. That is roughly 20 cards out of a deck of 50. Simultaneously a board like 5h4h3h is also not favourable.

      Going all-in here with our nines to maximize our equity and fold equity is the best play.

      Where on the chart can say that we should 3bet against a certain position`s raise.. so you mean we go BROKE w 99? I understand maybe if the raiser was BU but MP1 dsnt look like a bluff most of the time..
    • JohnDoe1313
      JohnDoe1313
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      Joined: 04.01.2011 Posts: 5,077
      My opinion on problem 13:

      MP1 just openminraised - that doesn't shove any strenght as many people can open like that very wide range.

      Of course we will squezze here as SHC says us to do. My standart sizing vs minraise oop is 4x + 1x per caller, so it's $0.70 as you picked. But that's 0.7/2 * 100= 35% of our stack.

      Lets say someone would push here after we 3bet. The odds we are getting are

      1.3/(2*2 + 0.4) = 29.5%

             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    64.26%  64.07%   0.19% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      MP3    35.74%  35.54%   0.19% { 99 }


      Let's say we are holding 76s in this spot and 3bet

             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    68.92%  68.73%   0.19% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      MP3    31.08%  30.88%   0.19% { 76s }


      Basically we are committed with any hand we make 3bet with. That's why we can't never play 3bet/fold profitabily, so shove is better option. We cannot play bluff like this. There is no room for postflop play too if someone calls us because of our stack and if we end up multiway, many overcards can show up vs our 99.

      That's why imo is the best option push preflop. As you have to invest more than 33% of our stack in multiway pots preflop, you can push directly.