[NL20-NL50] NL25 FR - 55 Vs. Loose Player

    • MaHnaK
      MaHnaK
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      Joined: 29.01.2009 Posts: 4,226
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $12.59
      MP2:
      $25.00
      MP3:
      $21.21
      CO:
      $7.75
      BU (Hero):
      $27.07
      SB:
      $25.84
      BB:
      $24.05
      UTG2:
      $10.00


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 5, 5.
      5 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $1.25, BB folds, Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($2.75) 9, 5, 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.96, SB raises to $3.92, Hero raises to $5.88, SB raises to $8.00, Hero raises to $26.71, SB calls $16.59.

      Turn: ($52.09) 9 (2 players)


      River: ($52.09) 6 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $52.09.

      Villain stats are 45/30 and AGF - 7.5 @ 150 hands.

      Questions:

      1. Folding bottom SET on such board should be fine against NITS/TAGs?

      2. Should i be ever think of FOLDING against such Loose opponents?
  • 4 replies
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
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      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      You run into 8s here? Just wondering because your questions seemed geared at trying to fold.

      Hitting a set in a 3 bet blind war pot - you arn't ever laying this down. Not even vs total rocks, as real rocks who 3bet you are only playing AA/KK anyway.

      Set over set is an ice cold cooler, but there is nothing you can do but cop it on the chin. No read in the world is ever going to let you release 55 in that spot. Even if they have 67 you still have 35% of it (7 outs on the turn, 10 on the river to improve to quads / boat).
    • MaHnaK
      MaHnaK
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      Joined: 29.01.2009 Posts: 4,226
      The reason being, i always face such small/min 3-bet from fishy looking players and they always end up hitting there SET, well some cases they do show AA/KK. In most cases, they do go for BET/BET/SHOVE from those players with AA/KK. But here he min 3-bet and took check/raise line on FLOP, can range also include SET here?
    • Jaissica
      Jaissica
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      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      It can, but can you give set enough weight in that range to find a fold?

      His range to check-raise-shove might be easily -

      88+
      JT
      67

      You are 65% - ship it, ship it good :)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      never going to fold set in 3-bet pot, so I like your small 3-bet and then shove over his 4-bet
      he has there more often overpairs than higher sets or straights