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[NL2-NL10] 66 set turn decision

    • CountBrass
      Joined: 22.08.2011 Posts: 20
      Villain appears TAG - 13 VPIP 13PFR 7 AF - 50 hands

      iPoker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 10 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG: $2.20
      UTG+1: $5.29
      MP: $2.97
      MP+1: $1.81
      MP+2: $5.63
      LP: $1.00
      CO: $1.16
      BTN: $7.45
      Hero (SB): $2.00
      BB: $5.00

      Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, LP posts DB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero has 6:diamond: 6:heart:

      fold, fold, MP raises to $0.08, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.08, fold, Hero calls $0.07, fold

      Flop: ($0.28, 3 players) 6:spade: 7:heart: 5:heart:
      Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.28, Hero calls $0.28, fold

      Turn: ($0.84, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      Hero checks, CO bets $0.80,

      I saw made straights, straight draws, and/or higher sets possibly with straights and redraws all as possibilities for villain. He might also have overpair or two pair, or 55, but I thought less likely given the size of his raise. Turn decision is definitely a solid commitment point.
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello CountBrass,

      You are going for Check/Call on such a board? That's the worst line you could pick. :D Into so many opponents just donk yourself and protect or either way Check/Raise big time.

      As played if you planning to continue there then it should be pretty much Check/Shove. But do we many hands here? He ain't even scared of the 8 on turn which makes me doubt that he is doing that with 2pairs. So I might the crying fold as I played it that passively.

      Best regards.
    • CountBrass
      Joined: 22.08.2011 Posts: 20
      Hey Veriz, I think you've really hit the nail on the head with one of my weaknesses here.

      A couple of days ago I had a similar experience with a set of kings, and bet out on it, but unfortunately, I suspect, not hard enough on the flop...

      iPoker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      SB: $3.00
      BB: $5.00
      UTG: $5.22
      UTG+1: $9.93
      MP: $3.02
      MP+1: $7.37
      Hero (LP): $5.05
      CO: $5.73
      BTN: $4.92

      SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:diamond: K:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.08, fold, BTN calls $0.08, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.19, 2 players) K:club: 6:heart: Q:club:
      Hero bets $0.12, BTN calls $0.12

      Turn: ($0.43, 2 players) A:spade:
      Hero bets $0.35, BTN raises to $1.11, Hero raises to $4.58, BTN raises to $4.72, Hero calls $0.14

      River: ($9.87, 2 players) T:diamond:

      Hero mucks K:diamond: K:heart: (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 84%, Flop 72%, Turn 23%)
      BTN shows T:heart: J:club: (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 16%, Flop 28%, Turn 77%)
      BTN wins $9.22

      Embarrassing. I post the result in this case because it is to show the effect it had on me later.

      This time, when the sixes came up with a straight draw it immediately took me back to this hand.

      I now suspect that I should also have bet this KK hand much more aggressively on the flop, to discourage drawing out his OESD.
      and even before this hand I should have protected my bankroll by leaving the table once it had climbed to about $4 ( I came with $2 as per usual and had some success until this point).

      But when the set of sixes came up I probably overreacted too scared, because I was thinking back to this one.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Yep, that's the 1st step you should have done with 250BB, leaving the table. If you even don't have that huge BR.

      About the play it's really up to the opponent. We really have to hope that he is able to play 2pairs like this. But now again we are 250BB deep, is he really? :(