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[NL20-NL50] nl25 SH - AQ TPTK

    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: $70.36 49/34/ATS:61/3bet:13/Foldv3bet:55/4bet:6/AF:2/Cbet:57/WTSD:33/W$SD:40
      SB: $29.95 18/14/3bet:4.5/AF:1.4/WTSD:31/W$SD:61/FlopCRaiseW$SD:58
      Hero (BB): $32.68
      UTG: $70.87

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25, BTN posts ante $0.05, SB posts ante $0.05, Hero posts ante $0.05, UTG posts ante $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.55) Hero has A:spade: Q:diamond:

      fold, BTN raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

      Flop: ($2.45, 3 players) 8:diamond: 4:diamond: Q:spade:
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.50, fold, SB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3.00

      Turn: ($11.45, 2 players) 3:heart:
      SB bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

      River: ($24.45, 2 players) 5:diamond:
      SB bets $9.25, Hero calls $9.25


      Looking at it now, I think 3betting pre vs maniac open raiser and folding to a 4bet would be better than calling. His 4betting range is most likely QQ+,AK based on his opening range/4bet percentage, while his continue range by calling is much wider, I would also put SB in a tough spot to continue pre.
      I did decide to donkbet to let the maniac get a chance to bluffraise me and also since his cbet% were not that high.
      As played pre I think checking, letting maniac cbet and then folding to SB check raise would be best. If maniac decides to check behind I would have to decide again what to do on the turn, just calling two streets from SB would be better.
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Definitely 3-bet pf and I think AQ is also good enough hand to play for stacks, since BU would quite often 4-bet bluff to against your squeeze.
      Postflop likely not going to fold, since he would rep only 44/88 and there are enough missed draws in his range that I´d likely shove turn for value.
      You can consider folding river, since draw got there, but since he may always have JT or T9 I think calldown is also fine
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      I was thinking of folding the river but his bet looked like a blockbet so I called. Then again, it was a blockbet, but one that beat me. He had 88 and was probably worried worse would not have called him if he shoved.

      You mean I should get it in pre against open raiser even if he doesn't 4bet light?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Maniatrix
      I was thinking of folding the river but his bet looked like a blockbet so I called. Then again, it was a blockbet, but one that beat me. He had 88 and was probably worried worse would not have called him if he shoved.

      You mean I should get it in pre against open raiser even if he doesn't 4bet light?
      likely not. But problem is that you can never be sure against 49/34 player if he is ever 4-bet bluffing that spot or not.
      So likely I´d still go with AQ
    • Maniatrix
      Maniatrix
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      Problem with maniacs is that they are not all the same. They all raise a lot pre and continue their aggression postflop. However, some of them do narrow their broke range a lot and I think that can be spotted in their stats as well. Of course, if you see someone openshoving a lot it means the 3bet/4bet issue is never an issue they have to deal with :D