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[NL20-NL50] FR25 - QQ Overpair

    • chocular77
      chocular77
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,102
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $31,65
      MP2:
      $12,94
      BU:
      $70,2

      0,15/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0,50, 2 folds, BU raises to $1,90, SB folds, Hero calls $1,65, MP2 folds.

      Flop: ($4,45) J:heart: , 9:spade: , 2:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $3, Hero raises to $7,00, BU calls $4,00.

      Turn: ($18,45) 2:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $8, Hero folds, BU gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $18,45

      The 3B of Villain on the BU is 5.
      The Bet on the Turn looked like he builds the Pot to push on R.

      A friend told me that i should 4B him (only plays SH).
      Is this the cheapest way to know where i am at?
      Can i do this against a 3B range of 5?

      And he thinks my ch-R on the Flop was to small (9-10$ with 10$ left). I thought 7 is enough because i show a lot of strength anyway and i don't commit myself.
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      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      Hero:
      $31,95
      BB:
      $27,9

      0,15/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:heart: , Q:diamond:
      7 folds, Hero raises to $0,75, BB raises to $2,35, Hero calls $1,60.

      Flop: ($4,70) 9:heart: , 8:club: , 7:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $2,65, Hero calls $2,65.

      Turn: ($10,00) K:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks.

      River: ($10,00) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1,75, Hero calls $1,75.

      Final Pot: $13,50

      This situation on the flop is a little bit like the first one. Here i definitly think a 4b would have been the best line. I only didn't 4B because the 3B of the Villain was only 4-5%
  • 1 reply
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Can i do this against a 3B range of 5?
      - lets start with that question

      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      QQ 57.32% 305,972,004 12,273,576
      5% 42.68% 226,267,092 12,273,576

      you´re ahead his 5% 3-betting range, so I think it is reasonable, but then you would also have to play for stacks. If you think he would fold everything else than KK+ then 4-betting is bad idea. You´re only isolating yourself against better hands

      Is this the cheapest way to know where i am at?
      Your equity against 5% is on that flop:

      board: Jh9s2s
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      QQ 51.03% 136,509 5,832
      5% 48.97% 130,899 5,832

      - so if I would c/r flop I´m not really going to c/r and then c/f on blank turn.
      I think cool move would be c/r flop to let him float and then c/rai on blank turn card, but don´t really c/r and then c/f.

      Safer play would always c/c flop and go from there. You can always decide on the turn if you want to c/rai or c/f depends your reads.
      I generally think his 3-bet range against you is wider, since you rather take safe side, so he would likely 3-bet wider than JJ+, AK, since you´re just raise/folding pf and would likely not 4-bet bluff.

      Hand 2: generally the same situation, but BB range is definitely wider there.
      Even if his 3-bet % is 5% you should still c/r flop and play for stacks, since you´re ahead on the flop:

      board: 987
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      QQ 52.66% 9,587,508 843,828
      5% 47.34% 8,576,664 843,828

      And I think he would also mess around a littlebit and would not only 3-bet hands for value