[NL2-NL10] NL 2 JJ vs fish

    • Cpwpoker
      Joined: 04.06.2009 Posts: 706
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J.
      UTG2 calls $0.02, MP1 raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06, BU calls $0.06, 2 folds, UTG2 calls $0.04.

      Flop: ($0.27) 3, 9, J (4 players)
      UTG2 checks, MP1 bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04, BU folds, UTG2 folds.

      Turn: ($0.35) 5 (2 players)
      MP1 bets $0.06, Hero raises to $0.12, MP1 calls $0.06.

      River: ($0.59) 7 (2 players)
      MP1 bets $1.02, Hero raises to $1.89, MP1 calls $0.87.

      Final Pot: $4.37.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(Js Jc).
      MP1 shows three of a kind, sevens(7s 7d).

      Hero wins with three of a kind, jacks(Js Jc).

      Should I have raised preflop? His stats was 76/52 33 hands sample xD
  • 4 replies
    • Aerox232
      Joined: 28.04.2011 Posts: 422
      Raise pre flop.

      Re-raise Flop.

      Re-raise bigger on turn.

      Shove river.
    • Jaissica
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      Vs that villain you value raise preflop. You are in front of 48% of his range :)

      As played of course you ignore the 4 cent bet. Don't slowplay hands that can be cracked! By calling you have given QT or T8 a free card to crack you for your entire stack, because you aren't easily folding a set. In fact protection becomes more important for made moderate monsters (such as sets) because we struggle to fold to flushes / straights.

      Raise the flop to 30 cents and see what happens.

      As played you make basically the same mistake on the turn. A min raise of a non-bet is a nothing line.

      As played on the river - T8 got there, and you let it get there for 16 cents with a likely win of your entire stack. You were just darn lucky he had 77 instead.

      You should only even think about slow playing the mortal nuts (best possible hand on the flop, but can be beaten on the turn by obvious draws) when you can put the villain on a very narrow range and safely give away free cards. If you were heads up against a TAG preflop raiser here you might consider giving away a free card as there is no way he has a straight draw, but even then you risk loosing value against QQ-AA. If bad turns and rivers come, never mind that you could lose (he lucks out a set over set or a backdoor straight) - some cards will scare both you and the villain and stop you getting all-in.

      When you flop the mortal nuts, 9 times out of 10 you should bet-raise-shove. The 10th time you think about it, then bet-raise-shove anyway..

      Of course if you flop the immortal nuts (such as quads on the flop or top set on bone dry boards) - different story.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Cpwpoker,

      Preflop: Against such a raise and also even such an aggressive player you can even consider 3betting it here. Usually such a raise is anyways a sign of a weak hand.

      As played
      Flop: Why do you slowplay it here? They may easily even be on a draw and you just giving perfect odds. Rather raise it up for protection.

      As played
      Turn: Way too small raise, you have to consider somehow to get his whole stack, ~$0,40 at least.

      As played
      River: Hehe, only hands you get value from now are some slowplayed sets or at the best 77. :) But meanwhile T8 completed. That's why you shouldn't slowplay that long. But of course if we plan to Call then we can as well just ship it while we don't have much behind.

      Best regards.
    • Cpwpoker
      Joined: 04.06.2009 Posts: 706
      Thanks for all you reply xD

      ok will note to never slowplay in a drawy board.

      Think because I did not get a lot of action wanted the action to last longer so I did slowplay to get a showdown.

      I have still a lot to learn >_<