[NL2-NL10] nl10 sh nuts flush vs full house

    • wnbMG
      Joined: 10.04.2011 Posts: 586
      river only call/fold?
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($10.05)
      BB ($38.04)
      UTG ($3.28)
      CO ($11.74)
      BTN ($9.71)

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: 5:heart:

      UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

      FLOP ($0.30) 2:heart: 3:club: 8:spade:

      Hero bets $0.10, BB raises to $0.20, UTG folds, Hero calls $0.10

      TURN ($0.70) 2:heart: 3:club: 8:spade: 8:heart:

      Hero checks, BB bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

      RIVER ($0.90) 2:heart: 3:club: 8:spade: 8:heart: 7:heart:

      Hero bets $1, BB raises to $3.90, Hero raises to $9.65 (AI), BB calls $5.75

      Hero shows A:heart: 5:heart:
      (Pre 49%, Flop 15.9%, Turn 0.0%)

      BB shows 3:diamond: 3:heart:
      (Pre 51%, Flop 84.1%, Turn 100.0%)

      BB wins $18.86
  • 3 replies
    • Aerox232
      Joined: 28.04.2011 Posts: 422
      This is badbeat. Nothig mush to do here. Mybe call BB re-raise. because board paired.
    • Jaissica
      Joined: 10.02.2009 Posts: 1,385
      Preflop - fine to speculate on A5s for 5 cents in a 3 way pot. Depending on the UTG's limp-fold% you might raise and try and claim the dead money in the pot straight up.

      Flop: Betting our gut shot equity? Do it properly and generate some fold equity. Even unimproved overcards can nearly call for 1/3rd of the pot. If raised (even if minraised) you fold. This is an unraised pot, and you hold diddly squat. Why invest money in it?

      As played to the Turn: We catch a card that increases our apparent outs, but we got raised on the flop and the board has paired so we could be drawing dead. No way are we betting - check-call 10 cents for a flush draw, but check-fold to a real bet.

      On the river - Okay, our flush got there. The strange 10 cent bet from the villain on the turn convinces us we should win with our flush, so we make a reasonable bet (60-80 cents). Vs that huge re-raise... surely the alarm bells go off. This is an unraised pot, and you are stacking off against the freeplay BB, who clearly isn't scared by the flush card and your big bet on it - indeed, it seems to be egging him on.

      You are either -

      Smashed by a full house
      beating a smaller flush
      being maniac bluffed by an insane villain

      But what smaller flushes are still here after raising us on the 1-heart flop? 4h5h? Might be the only one. meanwhile 28, 38, 87, 22, 33, 88 are all in the BB's freeplay range and have you smashed.

      I would crying call because I am a payoff station, but everything points at folding to the huge river raise. In any case you should have been out of this hand on the flop.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello wnbMG,

      Preflop: Most likely completing is fine if you even have a loose player behind you. We can't really isolate here while the opponent has a small stack. Wont have that much fold equity postflop.
      Flop: If you want to bet it then rather do it properly and bet it ~$0,20 than min-bet. And of course rather bet it yourself than go for Check/Call with your GS. With betting at least you gain some fold equity even. As we get raised do you really think that you will get your implied odds here? Even if you do hit your Ace for example you will never know where you stand. If you hit your straight you wont know if you even will get paid while you are as well OOP. I'd most likely just give up the hand.

      As played
      Turn: For the given odds you can even consider Check/Calling but watch out while the board is paired! He may even sometimes trap you.
      River: Obviously betting is fine here but the question is how much? Most likely keeping in near the pot. But as you get raised you you really expect the opponent to raise here with a lot worse? Also the raise ain't that weak after us even overbetting. Therefore at the best I'd just Call his raise than ship it. It's paired board and we might even see FHs here more often than flushes. Doubt that he is even playing his flush this way.

      Best regards.