which situation can you go all inn..

    • cekpirus88
      Joined: 16.06.2011 Posts: 441
      ..in the first phase of a tournament. for example let assume 3 different cases but in all hands there are 5 players...

      1) you have 9 8 and the board is

      8 :club: 8 :heart: 2 :club:

      let s assume that a player goes all inn. can you call with all your stack at the beginning?

      2) you hold T 9

      and the board is

      T :diamond: 9 :diamond: 5 :club:
      there is a raise and a re raise but you have top 2, can you do directly all inn also against flush?

      3) you have 3 3

      and the board is

      3 :diamond: A :heart: Q :heart:

      again same situation...i would go all in, especially in the case 2 and 3... what do you think?
  • 16 replies
    • Wriggers
      Joined: 21.07.2009 Posts: 3,250
      I'd be shoving faster than Usain Bolt on those. Of course, i'm just a tourney fish :D
    • TiciBoy
      Joined: 13.01.2010 Posts: 1,235
      Wouldn't think at all just shove all three.
    • gadget51
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      My chips would be pushed forward faster than a porn stars arse. easy game.
    • Meiosei
      Joined: 14.07.2011 Posts: 17
      those hand 2 good not to raise and reraise
    • Steelbrewer
      Joined: 22.04.2009 Posts: 580
      Funny how you give flops without mentioning preflop action.

      1) If you're PFR bet/broke (c/r vs aggro players might work as well)
      If you called PF then pretty much the same but c/r becomes more attractive vs players with high cbet
      If it is a limped pot and more than one player gives your bet or raise heavy action it might be time to rethink (A8s, T8, J8, 22 are all common hands for limped pots).

      2) raise and a re-raise assume that there was also an initial bet (from you probably) if that is the case then folding becomes a reasonable option.
      If you meant bet and a raise then your hand is probably good most of the times.

      Judging by your description it is at least 3 way pot, so it is either a limpfest or PFR and two callers but in early stages of a tournament ranges will be practically the same, mb more flushdraws in a limped pot.

      3) In a tournament pretty much have to go broke with this hand.

      PS: Just saw your post again and

      in all hands there are 5 players

      Does it mean 5 players on the table or 5 are still in the hand on the flop?

      If 2nd then T9 hand is an easy fold.
    • keoghh
      Joined: 01.07.2011 Posts: 857
      Shove all 3. Easy game :P
    • boyelsie
      Joined: 28.08.2011 Posts: 4
      all in all in the beginning tour - micro only :)

      ALL fold in the bubble

      HOWEVER in my humble opinion:

      Im just a beginner, but WHY on earth u calling/limp with hand 1 n 2 at the beginning of the tour with 5 players on?

      calling with this kind of hand without raise, n 5 players in will always make your decision harder.
    • Maniatrix
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      Fold everything, you are never good here. Rather wait for a better spot, like middle pair.
    • z1pz0r
      Joined: 12.08.2009 Posts: 981
      Originally posted by Maniatrix
      Fold everything, you are never good here. Rather wait for a better spot, like middle pair.
      Agreed. After all, you want to triple range merge your own range for balancing purposes.
    • vmarqui
      Joined: 25.01.2010 Posts: 4,816
      it's completely situational... you can't just say "i have xx and board is xx8" might fold if i limped along with 8 more people and might call if it's a 4bet pot
    • gadget51
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      ye and you cant just triple merge for balance becaue its Wednesday, that's just so nooby.
    • Maniatrix
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      I'd just simply fold to balance my folds.
    • gsergiul
      Joined: 26.11.2010 Posts: 234
      I'd fold here for meta game purposes but be sure not to expose your hand, you don't wanna give away any information.
    • setka8
      Joined: 31.07.2009 Posts: 15
      It seems You are afraid of Flush in all three examples. Some bad beat that You can't get off Your mind ?
    • Maniatrix
      Joined: 01.11.2008 Posts: 674
      I would often call with air and fold my monsters here for balancing purposes.
    • IngridN
      Joined: 02.03.2011 Posts: 12,162
      Hi guys,

      I just want to inform you that we have moved your thread into the Beginners Question board, because that is where it belongs :)