[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH - QQ on BU vs mini 3bet

    • Tosh5457
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q, Q.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $0.70, BB folds, Hero raises to $2.10, SB raises to $4.15, Hero raises to $10.40, SB calls $5.90.

      Flop: ($20.1) K, 5, 3 (2 players)

      Turn: ($20.1) 6 (2 players)

      River: ($20.1) K (2 players)

      Final Pot: $20.1.

      Results follow:

      SB shows two pairs, aces and kings(As Ah).
      Hero shows two pairs, kings and queens(Qc Qd).

      SB wins with two pairs, aces and kings(As Ah).

      Unknown player.

      I usually don't respect those miniraises, normally who do them are the fishes. So I 4betted with the plan of calling a shove or shoving.

      equity win tie pots won pots tied
      Hand 0: 55.143% 54.86% 00.29% 270516960 1415976.00 { QQ }
      Hand 1: 44.857% 44.57% 00.29% 219794640 1415976.00 { KK+, JJ-TT, AQs+, AQo+ }

      Because of the dead money on the pot it's EV+ to shove. Can I put him on that range though?
  • 2 replies
    • Tomaloc
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 6,850
      fine to not give credit to the min3bet, but the min5bet is concerning, this is the pre-nuts sooo often...

      still i can't see this as a "trivial" fold, but maybe you could call and reevaluate his actions being IP
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Tosh5457,

      Well, even if his min-3bet doesn't make sense the case usually is that when he does a min-5bet then it's often the hand he is representing. Doubt that he would do that with any worse. :( Unless we really can expect that.

      For given that reason I might even sometimes be inclined to fold here since I can't even see us getting the flip. :( Since there is no room for us to Call it anyways preflop. If we want to continue then we should rather get it in. Only option would be to Call his 3bet and reevaluate it postflop if we aren't sure that he is able to do that with very wide range. Will be much easier to get away postflop as well. :)

      Best regards.