[NL2-NL10] [NL2 FR BSS] JJ Preflop vs 8BB OpenRaise

    • Elertar
      Elertar
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.08.2011 Posts: 164
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($1.92)
      Hero ($4.79)
      UTG ($1.61)
      UTG+1 ($1.83)
      UTG+2 ($1)
      MP1 ($2.91)
      CO ($1.13)
      BTN ($2)

      Dealt to Hero J:heart: J:club:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, CO calls $0.02, fold, SB raises to $0.16, , Hero ???

      No stats. What to do here against such a big raise? We don't have the odds to call 20, 3betting will put a lot of money in the pot... Folding looks the most appealing to me.
  • 4 replies
    • denetomtom
      denetomtom
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.06.2011 Posts: 85
      Hi Elertar

      Totally agree with you, with no other info on villian and not getting call20 on your pair I would say definitely its a fold here.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Elertar,

      Well, obviously we could consider Calling here for getting like 14:1 odds, although the question is if it's worth? You way too often gonna make mistake postflop when having overpair and for that given reason and against his raise size without information rather fold and avoid any further mistakes.

      Best regards.
    • denetomtom
      denetomtom
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.06.2011 Posts: 85
      Hi Veriz not sure I understand where you got the 14/1 odds for the call.

      I see bets so far as sb 1 bb 2 co 2 sb 16 Total21

      We need to call 14 into a pot of 21 giving us odds of 3/2

      Is this correct or am I missing something.

      Cheers
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by denetomtom
      Hi Veriz not sure I understand where you got the 14/1 odds for the call.

      I see bets so far as sb 1 bb 2 co 2 sb 16 Total21

      We need to call 14 into a pot of 21 giving us odds of 3/2

      Is this correct or am I missing something.

      Cheers
      In pot there is already = $0,2
      Opp. Stack = $1,92
      We have to Call = $0,14
      Villain effective stack = $1,76

      (Pot + Eff. stack)/To_Call = 14:1 :)