[NL2-NL10] Qq Nl6 Fr

    • muel294
      Joined: 06.06.2009 Posts: 1,205
      villain = 24/0/3/39/68hands although at the time villain was fairly unknown.

      I figured I only beat JJ here? TX would check/call so I figured sets and QQ+

      Pacific Poker - $0.06 NL - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG+1: $6.78
      MP: $6.55
      Hero (MP+1): $6.48
      LP: $6.06
      CO: $8.78
      BTN: $4.92
      SB: $9.05
      BB: $6.00
      UTG: $6.00

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.06

      Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero has Q:heart: Q:diamond:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.24, fold, Hero raises to $0.72, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.48

      Flop: ($1.53, 2 players) T:heart: 6:diamond: 9:club:
      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.06, UTG+1 raises to $2.22, fold

      UTG+1 wins $3.44
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello muel294,

      Preflop: Well, I don't like the 3bet in first place against 0 PFR. If you are going to 3bet then it practically means you are doing it for value.

      As played
      Postflop: Which at the same time means I am not folding here. :( Obviously his line looks kinda strong but didn't you do the 3bet for value? Plus he may still even Call you down loose according his VPIP or is he rather nitty with fold to 3bet?

      Best regards.
    • muel294
      Joined: 06.06.2009 Posts: 1,205
      Unfortunately I only had 1 value for fold to 3bet preflop which was 1/1 folds. As for on the flop I had no stats to go on for fold to 3b.

      TBH at the time of the hand I had even fewer stats to go on, so I treated the opponent as an unknown.

      With that in mind if he was a complete unknown with 0 hands played against him for instance. Would you still 3b for value? I was under the impression that a 3b w/ QQ+ and AK is generally profitable in such circumstances. Obviously if I had 150 hands and he was 10/5 fto3b 90% I am clearly not 3betting here.

      You say that since I 3b for value this time that I shouldn't really be folding to the flop raise. I assume since you refer to his fold to 3b stats then you would take a bet/3bet broke line here, since I am committed by the turn anyway and would be unable to continue if and A/K appears?

      Thanks Veriz :)
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well, obviously I am not saying that I am going broke here anyways. I am just trying to make things clear. That what's your idea usually behind the preflop play. I mean you would still go broke wouldn't ya? As you 3bet there. Against UTG range it's kinda close either we can do it for value or not. While he even was playing 24/0 stats. :D

      But as played also that's true that most likely we are beaten there and only beat something like JJ:

      Board: T:heart: 6:diamond: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    34.88%  32.05%   2.82% { QdQh }
      UTG+1  65.12%  62.30%   2.82% { TT+ }

      But you would need ~36% equity here. So which is rather a Bet/Fold.