[NL2-NL10] nl2 FR problem with JJ

    • mrkhaan
      Joined: 23.02.2011 Posts: 263
      Hi guys,

      I would like a review of this hand, I will put my train of thoughts below the hand. I think I may have messed-up but I would like to know what was wrong in the way I played it.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG1 (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with J, J.
      Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.20, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.14.

      Flop: ($0.43) 8, 9, 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.26, Hero raises to $0.70, MP2 calls $0.41.

      Turn: ($1.8) 9 (2 players)

      River: ($1.8) 6 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $1.8.
      Results follow:

      MP2 shows a flush, queen high(Q Q).
      Hero shows a flush, jack high(J J).

      MP2 wins with a flush, queen high(Q Q).

      Well, since the guy plays SSS, I expect him to have a big hand. QQ and over or AQ and over. I decide to call his raise and a pretty nice flop comes on the board. At this point I check in order to let him take the initiative and try to determine if he has a big pair or a big ace.
      He bets 60% of the pot, that seems a bit low to me, so I think that he may have a big ace and the chances that he has a heart in his hand are pretty low since I have one in my hand and there are 3 on the board. I reraise him big to take the hand right there thinking that I have outs to the flush ( and even a gutshot to the strait flush) if he, in fact, has an overpair and decides to call. Plus I think that I might represent AK/AQ of hearts with a check/raise since I called his reraise PF.
      I think I had every reason to check raise here but I would like to "hear" other opinions. Maybe I have all this wrong and simply should have fold PF or just called on the flop to see the turn before I make a decision.

      Thanks in advance for any advice that could make me improve my game.
  • 1 reply
    • Bierbaer
      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      This is a fold-or-shove spot preflop.
      I agree that his 3bettingrange is very strong, it's QQ+,AQ+ at most - usually they don't even 3bet AQ, so you're up against smth like QQ+,AK against which you have:

             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    63.81%  63.60%   0.21% { QQ+, AKs, AKo }
      MP3    36.19%  35.98%   0.21% { JJ }

      ...insufficient equity to either call or 3bet.
      Therefore it's a fold preflop.

      Once you do call and hit this flop it's mandatory to c/shove because he's unlikely to follow through with unimproved overcards so there's no point in inducing.