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[NL2-NL10] NL 2 SH: OP on 884-Flop

    • Meras18
      Joined: 28.09.2008 Posts: 114
      Known players:

      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.102 by

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9:heart: , 9:club:
      2 folds, CO raises to $0,08, BU folds, Hero calls $0,07, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0,18) 8:spade: , 8:diamond: , 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0,12, CO raises to $0,33, Hero ?(

      I'm wondering if I should raise/fold or raise/call here, because the flop invites to bluff against c-bets or easily fold against unknown.
  • 3 replies
    • doctorkgb
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,263
      First of all I don't think that that board is good to donk bet. If you had an 8, you would c/r or c/c.
      By calling pf and donking that flop you don't represent much good hands, but mostly a bluff, that would invite CO to raise you. Board is super dry and even with two overcards for him it is a easy raise IP.
      You however are not in a great shape. You are OOP and by calling, you will most of the times find yourself in a difficult spot. Either vs overpair or if any of many overcards comes on next street.

      By how you played it, you can either 3bet him (as a bluff), or muck it.
    • JuanJesus
      Joined: 23.12.2009 Posts: 238
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from

      UTG ($15.86)
      MP ($37.48)
      Button ($45.14)
      SB ($25.04)
      Hero (BB) ($38.47)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, A
      1 fold, MP bets $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises $2.25, MP calls $1.75

      Flop: ($5.10) 9, 3, 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $2.75, Hero calls $2.75

      Turn: ($10.60) 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $6.75, Hero raises $33.22 (All-In), MP calls $25.48 (All-In)

      River: ($75.06) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: $75.06

      150 hands, 34/27, steal CO 46% >> Fold to 3bet 40% >> Fold to 3bet 3betpot 0% (3 times). Note " floating 3betpots in CO&BU vs blinds". Also i was reestealing 18%
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Meras18,

      Well, I am not a big fan of donking the flop. I mean with Check/Calling you still give him the opportunity to CBet with his whole stealing range. Why not just to let him then? I'd rather Check/Call the flop and reevaluate it on turn.

      Although as played obviously we can't do much. But now again I'd ask what was the idea behind donking the flop?

      Best regards.