[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH - Overpair vs minraise in paired flop

    • Tosh5457
      Joined: 18.01.2008 Posts: 3,062
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($21.04)
      BB ($1.70)
      UTG ($5.39)
      Hero ($10.60)
      CO ($11.25)
      BTN ($16.18)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: J:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.40, CO calls $0.40, fold, fold, BB calls $0.30

      FLOP ($1.25) T:diamond: 5:diamond: T:spade:

      BB checks, Hero bets $0.80, CO raises to $2, BB folds, Hero calls $1.20

      TURN ($5.25) T:diamond: 5:diamond: T:spade: K:club:

      Hero checks, CO checks

      RIVER ($5.25) T:diamond: 5:diamond: T:spade: K:club: 7:diamond:

      Hero bets $3, CO folds

      Hero shows J:diamond: J:spade:

      Hero wins $4.99

      Stats: 38/33/inf, 24 hands

      I put him on FD and 66-99, and pure bluff. Not sure if he'd raise the flop with Tx/55. If I 3bet he'll keep the hands that beat me and fold the hands that I beat (except for FD), so I just called. But I was planning to c/f on the turn, because if he has a pure bluff I think he'll check often on the turn.

      On the river I did a blockbet, to prevent him betting if he's bluffing, and if he has a PP he can still call. I could c/c here too maybe, because if he had Tx or better I think he'd bet the turn...

      My questions are:
      - On the flop is it ok to call oop, when I'm folding turn if he bets?
      - On the river, as played, should I c/c, because it's likely he was on a bluff?
  • 2 replies
    • spid3rix
      Joined: 24.01.2011 Posts: 236
      You didn't say anything about how aggressive was he. If he was a rather passive fish then I think a blockbet will be the best option on the turn. If he just calls, he is definitely on that range.
      Without the blocking bet, I think you are guessing his range and you don't want to do that on river. And if you were scared by his move, he could slowplay a T on the turn waiting for u to bet on the river. So I think check/call on turn is out of the question. You have only too choices there - c/c blocking bet/fold. A check/call can't say anything about his range. :D If I said something wrong, feel free to correct me I am just a fish trying to learn the game :s_cool:
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Tosh5457,

      - On the flop is it ok to call oop, when I'm folding turn if he bets?

      Well, of course it is okey if you expect the opponent to have such a range. And there is no other way I guess to play the hand Check/Fold on turn while I doubt that he is going to continue with a lot worse. Although the question is if he would even raise with a lot worse on flop? I mean he has still another guy behind him while we are in multiway pot. Against passive player I do sometimes prefer even just to Bet/Fold right there. I am pretty sure they would still raise with the Tx here to protect their hand.

      - On the river, as played, should I c/c, because it's likely he was on a bluff?

      No point to Check/Call, I mean he will never bet with weaker PPs, or either there ain't many missed draws. Only option would be to block-bet/Fold here although I would do it less ~$2.

      Best regards.