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[NL20-NL50] nl25 sh - 88 pre flop. shove it?

    • Strongsl
      Strongsl
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      Joined: 19.01.2007 Posts: 3,308
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($39.45)
      BB ($10.53)
      UTG ($24.29)
      CO ($24.79)
      Hero ($48.15)

      Dealt to Hero 8:heart: 8:spade:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.71, SB raises to $2.38, fold, fold

      SB wins $1.67

      26/22 af 4 . 3bet 9% in sb 6% in 125 hands. what is the best line? 4bet small? call ip?
  • 5 replies
    • Beseventh
      Beseventh
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      Joined: 06.01.2010 Posts: 2,519
      Don't 4bet here , better 4b with worste hand because with 88 you have some equity to see set and you want to get good potodds to call and implied odds. I like to call it if I know that player doing this for pure value VS old nitty man ;) Versus this player I fold this. On flop usually you will have tough decision and often flop won't help you. If he 3b a lot and CB flop = 85-100% and CB Turn 10-30% then you can try call 3b and float him on Turn or get cheap showdown value since you play IP.
    • Strongsl
      Strongsl
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      Joined: 19.01.2007 Posts: 3,308
      sorry. i posted the wrong hand previosly. edited now =)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you´re deep, so shove seems like very bad to me.
      You´re risking a lot (40$) to win 3$. Standard play would be call there ip and play postflop.
      You can always make moves on the flop if you think his 3-bet range is wide and he can´t stand heat.
    • Strongsl
      Strongsl
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      Joined: 19.01.2007 Posts: 3,308
      ok. and what about this: if i think he is not shoving light vs a 4bet. do u still think that calling is better ?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Strongsl
      ok. and what about this: if i think he is not shoving light vs a 4bet. do u still think that calling is better ?
      ip I would likely not really turn 88 into bluff.
      I can always do that postflop if I feel he is c-betting or barreling too often at any flop. I´d rather take A4o that has blocker to his 3-bet value hands like AQ/AJ or AK and out that way heat his wide 3-bet range