[NL2-NL10] nl2 - Bad call after flop

    • Philfox1985
      Philfox1985
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 934
      Didn't want to see an Ace on this flop, should just give it up there?

      On turn I figure chances of being agains ace are lower.

      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      UTG:
      $3.55
      UTG1:
      $1.88
      Hero:
      $1.99
      BU:
      $2.63

      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy.com Elephant 0.102 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:spade: , Q:club:
      UTG raises to $0.07, UTG1 calls $0.07, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.07, CO folds, BU raises to $0.12, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.05, UTG1 folds, Hero raises to $0.58, BU calls $0.46, UTG calls $0.46.

      Flop: ($1.84) A:spade: , T:heart: , 8:club: (3 players)
      UTG bets $0.11, Hero calls $0.11, BU calls $0.11.

      Turn: ($2.17) A:club: (3 players)
      UTG bets $0.67, Hero calls $0.67, BU folds.

      River: ($3.51) J:spade: (2 players)
      UTG raises $2.19 (All-In), Hero calls $0.63 (All-In), UTG gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

      Final Pot: $4.77

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      UTG shows a full-house, aces full of jacks (Ah Jc)
      Hero shows (Qs Qc)

      UTG wins with a full-house, aces full of jacks (Ah Jc)
  • 4 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Philfox1985,

      Preflop: I don't understand why do you Call vs UTG and then decide to 4bet it? Rather just 3bet directly. Or rather just Call it.

      As played
      Postflop: Well, that's the problem where you usually will put yourself if you Call the flop. I would most likely just give it up right there. I doubt that the guy would donk like this without having the Ace. He could easily be even trapping, plus you have another guy behind you. Which makes me very often just folding on turn. Ax is possible.

      Best regards.
    • Philfox1985
      Philfox1985
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 934
      Pre flop reasoning:

      BTN had raised around 50% of hands, so he could pretty much have any two cards.

      UTG & UTG+1 straight call this raise, I would expect them to always 4 bet with KK or AA, which is what I was originally conerned they could have.

      Given this, when it gets back to me I'm now more confident I have the best hand. Considered just shoving, may have even been best.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well, for that reason the 4bet is reasonable and I don't even mind. Your sizing is even correct. Although I would most likely continue playing like I said postflop.
    • Philfox1985
      Philfox1985
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2010 Posts: 934
      Had planned to fold if I see an ace, its the only card I'm scared of in the deck.

      Should show more discipline, knew when I called I'm a long shot to actually be ahead in the pot, still its small stakes probably better to lose the money & take the lesson :P