[NL2-NL10] NL2 QQ vs 4-bet

    • Krishjanis
      Krishjanis
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.01.2010 Posts: 977
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $3.51
      MP3:
      $2.00
      CO:
      $1.48
      BU:
      $3.08
      SB (Hero):
      $2.48
      BB:
      $5.62
      UTG2:
      $2.00
      MP1:
      $2.28


      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
      3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.06, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, BB calls $0.16, MP3 raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $2.49, BB folds, MP3 calls $0.80.

      Flop: ($4.66) 5, K, 2 (2 players)


      Turn: ($4.66) 5 (2 players)


      River: ($4.66) A (2 players)


      Final Pot: $4.66.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, queens and fives(Q Q).
      MP3 shows a full-house, aces full of fives(A A).

      MP3 wins with a full-house, aces full of fives(A A).

      So I get 4-bet and I have QQ, so is there a way I could have gotten away with this hand? After 223 hands his VPIP was 22 and PFR was 15 and he had 4-bet 1 out of 3 hands with 4.8% range. I know 3 hands is not a lot but still might help.
  • 5 replies
    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      22/15 are stats of a good tag so I think we should respect his 4bet.

      The way the action goes I think we could find a fold. BB calls our 3bet and after that mp 4bets TWO players. This is always the nuts on NL2. Sometimes you'll see AK but don't hope seeing it often. With this kind of action you can fold your QQ. Have in mind, that BB just smooth called your 3bet so he expects to play 3 handed which indicates strong hand.
    • Bogdan1190
      Bogdan1190
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 406
      This thing's happens. You played fine. If you had AA you would of played the same as he did and with Queens you just hope to get it all in and don't run into AA or KK .

      Best of luck,
      Bogdan
    • yaxkukmian
      yaxkukmian
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2007 Posts: 2,020
      Originally posted by Bogdan1190
      This thing's happens. You played fine. If you had AA you would of played the same as he did and with Queens you just hope to get it all in and don't run into AA or KK .

      Best of luck,
      Bogdan
      Don't agree. With AA you would play like this, but AA > QQ. When thinking about their ranges I think you can't put him on lower than JJ and also if it's unknown you might think he'll do it with AKo. Even if you put him on this range it's a flip.

      Equity Win Tie
      CO 52.63% 51.05% 1.58% JJ+, AKs, AKo
      BU 47.37% 45.79% 1.58% QdQh

      To me his line looks strong so folding QQ would be better.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Krishjanis,

      Well, at the best for you it's here anyways a coinflip. Do we want to take it? :) According his 3xBB raise and then huge 4bet we can even say that it's rather a strong hand than a weak hand. For that given reason I might even sometimes prefer just folding and avoid the flip.

      Best regards.
    • Bogdan1190
      Bogdan1190
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.04.2009 Posts: 406
      i guess his line does look kinda strong :) i ususally like to flip :D at theese limits you are ususally ahead and you are afraid only of KK and AA if he doesn't have that you are at least a favorite so i myself like those odds.

      I don't think it is a big mistake to ggo all in in this spot but i think it depends on how well you know the oop and how he played duering that session so far.