[NL2-NL10] NL20 A6s vs call cbet, action on turn?

    • VipKen
      VipKen
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      Joined: 07.03.2009 Posts: 280
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      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($11.52)
      BB ($11.21)
      UTG ($13.90)
      UTG+1 ($28.35)
      CO ($30.27)
      Hero ($6.82)

      Dealt to Hero 6:club: A:club:

      fold, fold, CO calls $0.20, Hero raises to $1, fold, fold, CO calls $0.80

      FLOP ($2.30) J:club: 3:diamond: 6:heart:

      CO checks, Hero bets $1.40, CO calls $1.40

      TURN ($5.10) J:club: 3:diamond: 6:heart: 7:spade:

      CO checks, Hero ???

      Villain is unknown, so he can be limping/calling with a wide range. After his limp I raise, and he calls. Flop brings me 2nd pair, so I decide to cbet and he calls.

      On the Turn he again checks towards me. Do I check behind here, or should I fire a second barrel, meaning me to go All In?
  • 4 replies
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Hey,

      You have to ask yourself these questions and answer it for me if you can:
      • Are Worse hands going to call when you shove the Turn?
      • Are better hands going to fold when you shove the Turn?

        In any event you do not bet Turn but check, does he:
      • Bet any worse hands on the River to justify the call?


      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • VipKen
      VipKen
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      Joined: 07.03.2009 Posts: 280
      • Are Worse hands going to call when you shove the Turn?
        A good player won't call with worse hands. A fish would even call with K3o.
      • Are better hands going to fold when you shove the Turn?
        I don't think anyone would fold anything better than top pair on this flop. But some players call with only top pair (without a decent kicker).

        In any event you do not bet Turn but check, does he:
      • Bet any worse hands on the River to justify the call?
        Definetely Yes. I've seen players call a river bet with complete trash.


      Because this is an unknown player to me, I would tend to a check behind and check/fold the river. Although the call on the flop and checking the turn doesn't show much strength, so it's even possible to but him on some kind of draw.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      People are checking to you since you are maintaining aggression so his check means nothing most of the time so I just check back and give up vs unknowns most of the time

      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • VipKen
      VipKen
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      Joined: 07.03.2009 Posts: 280
      Originally posted by Gerv
      People are checking to you since you are maintaining aggression so his check means nothing most of the time so I just check back and give up vs unknowns most of the time

      Best regards,
      Gerv
      If I use that play a lot of times, this could become some kind of leak. Villains will know that I don't have a strong hand when I check back at the turn. They will use this information against me to bluff at the river.

      I'm already noticing some players doing this. It makes it even profitable for them to call a cbet :s_frown: . So what can I do to prevent this? Checking the flop instead of cbet, and then cbet the turn?