[NL2-NL10] [Nl4 Sh] 2 pair on very drawy board

    • Elertar
      Elertar
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.08.2011 Posts: 164
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.04(BB) Replayer
      SB ($6.22)
      BB ($4)
      UTG ($4.32)
      UTG+1 ($4.70)
      CO ($9.87)
      Hero ($4.03)

      Dealt to Hero J:diamond: T:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.16, SB calls $0.14, BB calls $0.12

      FLOP ($0.48) 8:diamond: T:heart: J:club:

      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB folds, BB calls $0.40

      TURN ($1.28) 8:diamond: T:heart: J:club: 7:diamond:

      BB checks, Hero bets $0.91, BB calls $0.91

      RIVER ($3.10) 8:diamond: T:heart: J:club: 7:diamond: A:spade:

      BB checks, Hero bets $2.56 (AI), BB folds

      Hero shows J:diamond: T:spade:

      Hero wins $2.95

      Is it ok to bet the turn and the river in position like this?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Elertar,

      Well, the problem on turn/river is that there ain't gonna be worse hands which are going to pay you. I mean any 9x already beats you, better 2pairs/sets possible. I'd rather just Check behind on turn or either way river as played. You can't get 3streets value here from worse.

      Best Regards.
    • tofu22
      tofu22
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.10.2008 Posts: 659
      i understand why he shouldn't have bet the river, but the turn? isn't it a bit weak to ch there? ofc it would very much depend on the opp, but i could see that a random player would call the turn with AJ KJ J8, some of the looser ones even with QJ.

      Board: 8dThJc7d
      Equity Win Tie
      BU 58.30% 56.47% 1.83% { JdTs }
      BB 41.70% 39.87% 1.83% { TT-88, AJs, KJs+, QJs, Q9s, J8s, AJo, KJo+, QJo, Q9o, J8o }


      i hope my villain range is ok.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      i understand why he shouldn't have bet the river, but the turn? isn't it a bit weak to ch there? ofc it would very much depend on the opp, but i could see that a random player would call the turn with AJ KJ J8, some of the looser ones even with QJ.

      Draw completed, a lot worse ain't gonna pay, we can't get 3 streets of value from him, we don't protect much here. Should be enough of reasons. :D Only reason to bet is for free showdown.