The SH silver chart-playing SB in liming pot!

    • urke1
      urke1
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      Joined: 31.10.2007 Posts: 16
      Concerning shorthanded fixed limit game have 2 questions:
      1. Which hands I play in small blind against limping pot (oponent(s))-not raised!,
      2. Where can I find the old SHC?
      I'm using the SH SILVER chart.
      Regards to all Poker strategy players!
  • 12 replies
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      1) Should be the raise when 1 limper chart (no idea how it's really is named).

      2) I don't know if it even exists anymore. :/
    • urke1
      urke1
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      If I am in the SB and I have 76s for example and 2 limpers, according to "limper 1,2,3 chart, I should fold, isn't it? Strange to me to fold. Am I wrong?
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Ahh ok I got you now. :)

      There is no chart for these kind of hands but of course you can complete here (and other hands). There is a table which tells you which hands you can complete for which odds you get.

      Suited connectors: 3:1
      1-gap suited connector: 3,5:1
      2-gap suited connector: 4:1
      any suited: 5:1

      pocketpars: 7,5:1


      There are values for offsuited and A-high hands as well but I don'tg recommend you to complete these. There is a gold chart which lists them too but for now you should stay with the silver charts and the odds chart above. (You can lose much money if you play them wrong. :) )
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
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      any 2 suited = 5.5:1, so don't complete after 1 limper
    • urke1
      urke1
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      That's it!
      Thank You!
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Originally posted by Yoghi
      any 2 suited = 5.5:1, so don't complete after 1 limper
      Ah ok thx. I wrote it down without looking at the chart. :)
    • PokerBandit
      PokerBandit
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      Hey guys I haven't seen this before, can I just clarify, I will use suited connectors as the example and we are talking about completing from the small blind.

      suited connectors 3:1

      are you saying, if the pot/cost of completing is greater than or equal to 3 then complete?

      Along the same lines would calling 1 more bet from the big blind using these ratios also be correct?

      Many thanks
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Originally posted by PokerBandit
      Hey guys I haven't seen this before, can I just clarify, I will use suited connectors as the example and we are talking about completing from the small blind.

      suited connectors 3:1

      are you saying, if the pot/cost of completing is greater than or equal to 3 then complete?

      Along the same lines would calling 1 more bet from the big blind using these ratios also be correct?

      Many thanks
      Correct. :)
    • DarthBobo
      DarthBobo
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      Joined: 09.09.2007 Posts: 1,134
      Is the chart below what you are looking for? It's in the newest bronze articles at the German site. (not available in English I think)


      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/download/content/artikel_daten/charts/ps_chart_fl_fullring_adv_de.pdf
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      Kind of.

      The botton left is completing in the SB (so there was no preflopraise).
      On top are the players who called before you.

      PAARE = pairs
      Alle suited Hände = all suited hands
      Alle Hände = all hands

      The bottom right is out of the SB.
      The tabel is like the other.

      Maybe you can use them now. :)
    • urke1
      urke1
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      Yep!
      That's it!!!
      Thank You a lot DarthBobo. Thank You ciRith for short translations. Hope I can find out the meaning of the german chart.
      Best regards!
    • ciRith
      ciRith
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      You're welcome. Don't hesitate to ask if something is unclear. :)