[NL2-NL10] Nl 5 Jj

    • cekpirus88
      cekpirus88
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      Joined: 16.06.2011 Posts: 441
      Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1469043
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      RE.DEL.P0KER (UTG): $4.45
      romeojx (UTG+1): $4.75
      Ale3210 (UTG+2): $5.72
      oliva.vito30 (MP1): $4.71
      anto749 (MP2): $5.15
      Cekpirus88 (CO): $4.95
      biondo383 (BTN): $8.65
      ICESIMONE (SB): $3.82
      vannu82 (BB): $5.86

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Cekpirus88 is CO with J :club: J :spade:
      RE.DEL.P0KER calls $0.05, 3 folds, anto749 calls $0.05, Cekpirus88 raises to $0.30, 3 folds, RE.DEL.P0KER calls $0.25, anto749 calls $0.25

      Flop: ($0.97) 4 :spade: 7 :diamond: 6 :heart: (3 players)
      RE.DEL.P0KER checks, anto749 checks, Cekpirus88 bets $0.88, RE.DEL.P0KER calls $0.88, anto749 raises to $4.85, Cekpirus88 folds, RE.DEL.P0KER folds

      Final Pot: $3.61
      anto749 wins $3.42
      (Rake: $0.19)

      I had to fold the JJ even than there were all undercards... how do you evaluate this hand?
  • 7 replies
    • Bogdan1190
      Bogdan1190
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      why?
    • cekpirus88
      cekpirus88
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      what you mean with why? you would not have folded the hand?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Hi,

      NL 5 it is close and it depends a lot on the limper.
      First of all you get quite good odds to call there:
      you have to put in around 4$ to win 7.4$ getting 1.85: 1, which is 35%.
      Now question is what hands would anto749 c/c pf and then c/rai that flop. I think you are seeing there quite often any 5x or maybe smt like 78 against loose players, which should be easy b/c with overpair. Some players would only c/rai with sets or two pairs, which would make it fold.

      I would generally not give him too much credit and b/c, especially if I had been aggressive and raised a lot pf.
    • Bogdan1190
      Bogdan1190
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      no im not folding here

      im asking you why becouse i dont know anything about the oponent but you do...

      it depends on the oop but im inclined to call here you are ahead against many hands :) maybe he had TT or AK
    • cekpirus88
      cekpirus88
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      Joined: 16.06.2011 Posts: 441
      hi Kaitz20 very good your explanation :) )) I quote what you wrote "I you have to put in around 4$ to win 7.4$ getting 1.85: 1, which is 35%. " how can I calculate this percentages ? can you send me the link to the article or the video of this explanation? thanks :) ))
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by cekpirus88
      hi Kaitz20 very good your explanation :) )) I quote what you wrote "I you have to put in around 4$ to win 7.4$ getting 1.85: 1, which is 35%. " how can I calculate this percentages ? can you send me the link to the article or the video of this explanation? thanks :) ))
      as I understood:
      7.4/4= 1.85
      No you say 1.85 to 1 and to get percent you add 1+amount you calculated:
      1+1.85= 2.85 and now you have to divide that number by 1
      1/2.85=0.35 and now take percent(multiply 100) what is 35%
      Found out that in forums.

      That strategy is talking about the odds:
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/1563/2/
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello cekpirus88,

      I don't like that much your CBet size there. You should definitely do it a lot smaller ~$0,60 should be enough. Then you could also even consider Bet/Folding it. But while you go for such a huge bet which means you are also planning to go for the stacks then I doubt vs his shipping range it's gonna be a fold for us.

      Best Regards.