[NL2-NL10] nl6 fr AA

    • tofu22
      tofu22
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      Pacific Poker - $0.06 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: $6.00
      UTG: $4.77
      UTG+1: $6.52
      MP: $10.88
      Hero (MP+1): $9.89
      CO: $4.77
      BTN: $1.94
      SB: $4.65

      SB posts SB $0.03, BB posts BB $0.06

      Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero has A:diamond: A:club:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.21, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.36, fold, Hero raises to $1.14, SB calls $0.78

      Flop: ($2.34, 2 players) 8:club: K:heart: 4:spade:
      SB bets $3.51, Hero calls $3.51

      Turn: ($9.36, 2 players) 3:club:

      River: ($9.36, 2 players) 3:diamond:


      no stats on villain


      Board: Kh4s8c
      Equity Win Tie
      MP3 61.97% 56.97% 5.00% { AdAc }
      SB 38.03% 33.03% 5.00% { KK+, AKs, AKo }

      need 60% for break even. when he calls my 4bet it's probably quite clear to him that i have a strong hand, so when he's shoveing on the flop, he's probably not shoveing out of weakness. could i consider myself beat?
  • 11 replies
    • Meemawuk
      Meemawuk
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      I don't believe he would ever over-shove KK here so I would never fold. I presume he has AK here or is spazzing out with QQ. He has made a mistake if he has called pre with 44/88.

      I would also prefer to 4-bet it bigger. Just my preference though.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello tofu22,

      Never-ever thinking of folding here. Snap-Call for me. :D He may also play this way even with bluffs/Kx hands. Nice hand!

      Could you explain me how did you calculate the break-even? It's wrong actually. :)

      Best Regards.
    • tofu22
      tofu22
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      your right, made a mistake didn't add his bet to the pot. so now i get 37,50%.
    • Meemawuk
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      I wouldnt even put KK in his range lol. Thats just my opinion though.
    • tofu22
      tofu22
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      why not?
    • Meemawuk
      Meemawuk
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      I would never believe someone is flatting a 4bet preflop OOP with KK, then donk shoving for more than the pot on the flop with top set.

      You have to bet every hand in your range when he checks to you, and you're always stacking off with AA or AK anyway. He loses value from your rare bluffs and strangely played JJ/QQ.

      Did he actually have KK here?
    • tofu22
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      yes he had KK. i understand your reasoning, he probably put me on AA pf and was really happy to see that K on the flop, got really excited and shoved. your line would indeed be better.
    • veriz
      veriz
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      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Meemawuk
      I wouldnt even put KK in his range lol. Thats just my opinion though.
      Nah, we can't really exclude KK here, we don't know anything about him.
    • Meemawuk
      Meemawuk
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      Originally posted by tofu22
      yes he had KK. i understand your reasoning, he probably put me on AA pf and was really happy to see that K on the flop, got really excited and shoved. your line would indeed be better.
      ARGH!! Really sorry dude, I genuinely thought you had won this hand. Those are the spots that truely tilt me. I would prefer he just gets it in pre and hits the King that plays it like this. I hope you took a break after this or have better mindset than me!
    • tofu22
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      last few weeks downswing on sh trained me not to tilt in these kind of situations. but when i get 2-3 like this in a row...
    • veriz
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      Originally posted by tofu22
      last few weeks downswing on sh trained me not to tilt in these kind of situations. but when i get 2-3 like this in a row...
      Get used to it. It's gonna happen even more often if you play a lot more hands. The only way to beat those runs is to ignore the beats and continue playing your A-game. That's part of poker.