Folding hands

    • bresha
      bresha
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.11.2007 Posts: 13
      I really have trouble folding hands, especially in MTT. I believe it is because I'm playing very tight and when I hit a hand, preflop or postflop, I just cant let it go!
      And the worst thing is that I don't just call! Especially in the middle of the tournament! I'm just thinking about how I need to double up and can't control my self!
      For an example I place this hand:

      CO-1 was very loose, playing almost all pots but passively.

      Button ($3410.00)
      Hero ($7910.00)
      BB ($3320.00)
      UTG ($19670.00)
      UTG+1 ($10970.00)
      MP ($4035.00)
      MP ($10645.00)
      CO-1 ($9230.00)
      CO ($5570.00)

      Preflop: , 4 folds, CO-1 calls 400.00, 2 folds, SB calls 200.00, BB checks.

      Flop (1200.00) A :club: 7 :diamond: 6 :spade:
      Hero checks, BB checks, CO-1 checks.

      Turn (1200.00) 3 :diamond:
      Hero bets 800.00, 1 fold, CO-1 calls 800.00.

      River (2800.00) 4 :club:
      Hero bets 800.00, CO-1 raises to 3200.00, Hero moves all-in for 5910.00, CO-1 calls 3510.00

      CO-1 shows 5 :diamond: Q :diamond:
      Hero shows 3 :spade: 3 :club:

      CO-1 wins 16220.00 with A straight, Seven high

      On turn I was thinking he has a flush draw because he played mostly suited hands. When he raised me on the river I knew I was beaten but suddenly I started thinking he has an ace and that is the reason why he raised me so I went all in!

      There was few occasions when I went all in with KK and there was an ace on flop and the guy bets!

      In all occasions my stack would be decent if I had folded and I would still be in the game.

      I think that I play MTT decently, but waiting is killing me and I think that is the reason why I do those idiot moves!

      Do you have any suggestions how to fold those damn hands?
  • 8 replies
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      flatcall the river, otherwise well played
    • timukasr
      timukasr
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.05.2007 Posts: 1,820
      My problem is a bit diffrent. When I play 4 tables then I'm too scared to put my money in the middle, but when I'm playing 12 tables (which you shouldn't) I'm not scared of playing good poker (as much as there are playing 12 tables same time), calling bluffs and so on...
    • Agiz19
      Agiz19
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      Joined: 19.03.2007 Posts: 1,097
      take it easy man....And play good poker on less tables.
    • Zudikas
      Zudikas
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.03.2008 Posts: 17
      Well if you scared with only 4 tables and not at 12, how do you feel at only 1 table ?

      And why are you scared to bet?

      Ask yourself much questions wenn play poker :D
    • Freaky304
      Freaky304
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.04.2008 Posts: 63
      Hi Bresha,

      I had/have kind of the same problem although it wasen't as much that i couldn't fold as that i started to play bad hands just to get some action, cause if you play tight you can expect to sit and wait alot.

      I solved it with playing a minimum of 2 tables (usually 4), sometimes when i play an mtt where i need all my focus (okay i admit sometimes i play above my bankroll) and i don't want to divide my attention over multiple tables, i open some playmoney tables, it doesn't matter if you lose them so you don't have to keep focused on them but it may give you just enough side action so you don't get impatient.

      for the example hand I agree with chenny, i wouldn't have gone all in on the river but it is not a hand i would have folded either. I wouldn't wan't CO-1 bluff me out of a set but the 2.7k extra chips ain't worth the risk imo and as long as you have chips you can always make a come back.

      ow and if you passed your quiz on SnG/tournament then you should remember the question wich helped me the most. Who wins a tournament? the one who survives the longest, so don't put to much pressure on yourself to double up.
    • timukasr
      timukasr
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.05.2007 Posts: 1,820
      Originally posted by Zudikas
      Well if you scared with only 4 tables and not at 12, how do you feel at only 1 table ?

      And why are you scared to bet?

      Ask yourself much questions wenn play poker :D
      1 table is a bit boring and I'm scared to bet because I have played about hour or so, lost some pots and now when I have a hand I don't want to lose it cause I want to end the session +$.
    • TheBrood
      TheBrood
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.07.2008 Posts: 4,383
      turn makes board drawy so bet more, like pot size.
      call river or bet more and fold to raise.

      In a MTT I study my opponents, I dont multitask or I lose focus and my stack.
    • RHart1985UKEngland
      RHart1985UKEngland
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.06.2008 Posts: 34
      Originally posted by bresha
      I really have trouble folding hands, especially in MTT. I believe it is because I'm playing very tight and when I hit a hand, preflop or postflop, I just cant let it go!
      And the worst thing is that I don't just call! Especially in the middle of the tournament! I'm just thinking about how I need to double up and can't control my self!
      For an example I place this hand:

      CO-1 was very loose, playing almost all pots but passively.

      Button ($3410.00)
      Hero ($7910.00)
      BB ($3320.00)
      UTG ($19670.00)
      UTG+1 ($10970.00)
      MP ($4035.00)
      MP ($10645.00)
      CO-1 ($9230.00)
      CO ($5570.00)

      Preflop: , 4 folds, CO-1 calls 400.00, 2 folds, SB calls 200.00, BB checks.

      Flop (1200.00) A :club: 7 :diamond: 6 :spade:
      Hero checks, BB checks, CO-1 checks.

      Turn (1200.00) 3 :diamond:
      Hero bets 800.00, 1 fold, CO-1 calls 800.00.

      River (2800.00) 4 :club:
      Hero bets 800.00, CO-1 raises to 3200.00, Hero moves all-in for 5910.00, CO-1 calls 3510.00

      CO-1 shows 5 :diamond: Q :diamond:
      Hero shows 3 :spade: 3 :club:

      CO-1 wins 16220.00 with A straight, Seven high

      On turn I was thinking he has a flush draw because he played mostly suited hands. When he raised me on the river I knew I was beaten but suddenly I started thinking he has an ace and that is the reason why he raised me so I went all in!

      There was few occasions when I went all in with KK and there was an ace on flop and the guy bets!

      In all occasions my stack would be decent if I had folded and I would still be in the game.

      I think that I play MTT decently, but waiting is killing me and I think that is the reason why I do those idiot moves!

      Do you have any suggestions how to fold those damn hands?

      do you ever play at home with your friends or anything...like for fun n that. cos a while back i played with some old mates that couldn't play and i sub coniously picked up some bad habbits in my game from playing with them. 1 included calling bets when i knew for sure i was beaten. took a little while to get it out my system too. no shit...that was what happened.