[NL20-NL50] Nl20 Sh K6

    • SPeedFANat1c
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      NL Holdem $0.20(BB) Replayer
      SB ($24.86)
      Hero ($24.06)
      UTG ($20.72)
      CO ($13.03)
      BTN ($20.04)

      Dealt to Hero 6:heart: K:spade:

      fold, fold, fold, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.40

      FLOP ($1.20) 8:club: 8:diamond: K:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

      TURN ($2.40) 8:club: 8:diamond: K:heart: 8:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $1.90, SB raises to $3.80, Hero raises to $8.80, SB raises to $13.80, Hero raises to $22.86 (AI), SB calls $9.06

      RIVER ($48.12) 8:club: 8:diamond: K:heart: 8:heart: Q:diamond:

      45/16/0.8
      fold to cbet 68
      hands 197

      what do you think about turn - maybe I overplayd my king? Probably is so marginal, because with many weak pockets he would not go allin on turn, his AF is low. So at best we can hope that he goes broke there with TT-QQ, what do you think? Other hands might be Kx, so we divide the pot and pay rake to site, and less chance that he has KK, AA, or 8x.
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    • Vodivi
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      id raise 0.8 preflop and cbet 2/3, as someone here has said, raise your bets, raise your winrate ;)

      on i would probably just call the c/r on turn, hope that he bluffs the river, we are probably not getting it in that often against TT-QQ(assuming, he doesnt limp it every time and sometimes limp/rres)
      so we are just paying the rake and value cutting ourselves vs 8x
    • SPeedFANat1c
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      id raise 0.8 preflop


      but the hand is not the best one for value raising and we have position anyway, so I think its better to see the flop cheaper with such hand
    • Vodivi
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      then just check behind if you dont want to invest too much preflop

      most villains will fold to cbet too often, so the more money we put in preflop, the more we win.
    • SPeedFANat1c
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      then just check behind if you dont want to invest too much preflop


      but why check? I think its better to raise even small than check, isn't it?
    • Vodivi
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      OOP, id raise a bit smaller, but IP, imo that way we will win a bit more money.
      that is if the villain is folding a lot postflop, if he isnt, then just check behind imo.
    • SPeedFANat1c
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      OOP, id raise a bit smaller, but IP, imo that way we will win a bit more money.

      OOP I want to give him worse odds to call, so I would raise more than IP
    • Vodivi
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      well obviously our opinions don't agree on this one :D
    • Kaitz20
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      Don´t really like 3-betting turn, since it is very hard him to 3-bet or call down with worse hands, so if he is bluffing I´d let him to bluff and just call him down, although I think you would split pot most of the times another Kx.
      If you had AA you can consider 3-betting turn and stacking off, but here pot control is better.
    • sausage646
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      fold to c bet 68%
      raise 0.8 pf and take money on flop as vodivi said.
      his range is anyway really weak since he doesn't limp every hand ( PFR 16 ), but yh you did overplay on turn...