[NL2-NL10] 2 pairs

    • wnbMG
      wnbMG
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.04.2011 Posts: 586
      his agression factor 7.0, TAG
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($15.13)
      BB ($20.98)
      UTG ($13.06)
      UTG+1 ($7.75)
      CO ($12.61)
      Hero ($10.11)

      Dealt to Hero T:heart: 8:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, SB calls $0.20, fold

      FLOP ($0.60) 8:spade: 4:spade: 9:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

      TURN ($3) 8:spade: 4:spade: 9:heart: T:club:

      SB bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

      RIVER ($7.50) 8:spade: 4:spade: 9:heart: T:club: 7:spade:

      SB bets $4.30, Hero calls $4.30

      Hero shows T:heart: 8:heart:
      (Pre 45%, Flop 54.5%, Turn 75.0%)

      SB shows A:spade: 6:spade:
      (Pre 55%, Flop 45.5%, Turn 25.0%)

      SB wins $15.03
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello wnbMG,

      Well, of course your play is totally fine till river. I just don't see what hadns you beat on river? There are couple of draws which even completed, I'd really be inclined to fold it there. Doubt that the guy could even bet with 2pairs there, but rather pick passive Check line. No bluffs in his range either since most of them completed.

      Best Regards.
    • dannywratten
      dannywratten
      Gold
      Joined: 11.05.2010 Posts: 1,462
      What is your thoughts on the flop line veriz? If villains percieved range consists of mostly bluffs & semibluffs, shouldn't we be raising for protection/value? Also as played, what about shoving turn for same reasoning? Seems like there is a lot of bad river cards for our hand
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by dannywratten
      What is your thoughts on the flop line veriz? If villains percieved range consists of mostly bluffs & semibluffs, shouldn't we be raising for protection/value? Also as played, what about shoving turn for same reasoning? Seems like there is a lot of bad river cards for our hand
      What do you think what will continue on flop vs our 3bet? The problem is that most likely not that many hands what we beat. For that reason I decided to go for pot control on flop & turn, since turn also completed a draw. You are isolating yourself against strong hands in those spots.
    • dannywratten
      dannywratten
      Gold
      Joined: 11.05.2010 Posts: 1,462
      I understand where your coming from, but the main reason behind raising flop would be to take down the pot against villains wide c/r range. Even though it isolates, the majority of his range cant continue, and we have a lot of fold equity, also its so hard to play the turn with so many scare cards that villain bets. Im not saying your wrong, but i thought we dont have too much SD value & we can get a lot of folds from hands with a heap of equity
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by dannywratten
      I understand where your coming from, but the main reason behind raising flop would be to take down the pot against villains wide c/r range. Even though it isolates, the majority of his range cant continue, and we have a lot of fold equity, also its so hard to play the turn with so many scare cards that villain bets. Im not saying your wrong, but i thought we dont have too much SD value & we can get a lot of folds from hands with a heap of equity
      But if you are going to 3bet it then you practically plan to go broke, do you really want to say you are going to 3bet/Fold?