Poker Stars 180 mans

    • antstruk
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      Im starting at the $1.50's and im wondering whats more profitable for a limited BR; 180 mans or 9 mans?

      Thanks
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    • Akcus
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      Originally posted by antstruk
      Whats more profitable for a limited BR; 180 mans or 9 mans?

      Thanks
      180mans if you win them!
    • antstruk
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      Originally posted by Akcus
      Originally posted by antstruk
      Whats more profitable for a limited BR; 180 mans or 9 mans?

      Thanks
      180mans if you win them!
      Good for you.
    • hamid88
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      If you've got a small BR, you're better off playing the 9.

      The larger the player base, the harder to make it to the top.
    • fruktpuff
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      I've moved this thread to a more suitable board where it's likely to get better attention.

      Regards,
      Richard
    • DonBartos
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      Hi,

      What is your bankroll? What has been your SNG experience?
      And, why do you choose between 9mans and 180mans. Why haven't you thought about the 18mans and 45mans.

      I think 9mans are actually not the best to grind nowadays. The $1.50 will probably be still crushable, but the higher stakes not so much. And when you start, you're probably better of taking another game instead of playing 9mans untill the stakes where they aren't so beatable and switch to another game anyways.

      The bigger your roll, the more variance it can take and the bigger the size of the SNG can be. (180>45>18).
    • JHTAN
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      Originally posted by DonBartos
      Hi,

      What is your bankroll? What has been your SNG experience?
      And, why do you choose between 9mans and 180mans. Why haven't you thought about the 18mans and 45mans.

      I think 9mans are actually not the best to grind nowadays. The $1.50 will probably be still crushable, but the higher stakes not so much. And when you start, you're probably better of taking another game instead of playing 9mans untill the stakes where they aren't so beatable and switch to another game anyways.

      The bigger your roll, the more variance it can take and the bigger the size of the SNG can be. (180>45>18).
      Hi DonBartos,

      what game do you play?
      what game do you think good to grind?
    • DonBartos
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      Hi,

      I play 45/180mans myself.
      I think 18/45/180mans are the best to grind but it's kinda personal.
      18s have smaller variance and last shorter. 45/180s have higher variance but do have breaks and higher ROIs.

      But I think you're better of by playing 45mans or something rather than 9mans. The low stakes of 45mans are so easy to beat you should be able to move up rather quickly.
    • conall88
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      if BR < 85BIs , I would go for 9 mans until your BR builds a bit more. Unless you are willing to deposit if you run into a bad swing.

      but yeah Ideally if you have 40BI to start 45mans, its a good spot to start.

      I still play them regularly, and am starting to mix 180man turbs.
    • antstruk
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      Donbartos, 9mans a still okay for small stakes correct? At what buy in level do you believe they become unprofitable?
    • Targetme
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      180's is where the fish go so you can figure it out
    • conall88
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      tbh though you are asking the wrong questions, OP.
    • antstruk
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      What are the right questions ?
    • DonBartos
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      Originally posted by antstruk
      Donbartos, 9mans a still okay for small stakes correct? At what buy in level do you believe they become unprofitable?
      They don't become unprofitable per se, but it's hard to get a good edge on the $15+ stakes. And also although the low stakes of 9mans are beatable, but that doesn't mean they're better than 180/45/18s in any way tbh.
    • conall88
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      Originally posted by antstruk
      What are the right questions ?
      I think the following would be a good place to start:

      - what are the advantages and disadvantages of 180mans?
      - should I play turbo or non turbo?
      - what are the advantages & disadvantages of 45mans?
      - again turb or non turb?
      - which has the best hourly rate?
      - which are easiest to learn?
      - which suits my bankroll the best?
      - what should I aim to play in the future as my bankroll, level of confidence, and skill improves?
    • antstruk
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      Originally posted by conall88
      Originally posted by antstruk
      What are the right questions ?
      I think the following would be a good place to start:

      - what are the advantages and disadvantages of 180mans?
      - should I play turbo or non turbo?
      - what are the advantages & disadvantages of 45mans?
      - again turb or non turb?
      - which has the best hourly rate?
      - which are easiest to learn?
      - which suits my bankroll the best?
      - what should I aim to play in the future as my bankroll, level of confidence, and skill improves?
      Alright thanks man, do you know the answers to any of the questions? They all seem like ones I would like to know the fourms opinion on.
    • DonBartos
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      1. 180s are less regfilled and its way easier to crush them with a massive roi.
      2. Turbo if youre looking for max ev
      3. Last shorter than 180s and therefor tend to have a higher hourly
      4. Same as 2
      5. Depends how many tables you play and what youre roi is. I guess 18man or 45man
      6. 45/180man cause players are worse and its mostly c ev so not so much icm
      7. Depends on your bankroll, just give a number since limited is a very relative word
      8. You should stay at your game, therefor you should pick a game with good future value
    • JHTAN
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      Originally posted by DonBartos
      1. 180s are less regfilled and its way easier to crush them with a massive roi.
      2. Turbo if youre looking for max ev
      3. Last shorter than 180s and therefor tend to have a higher hourly
      4. Same as 2
      5. Depends how many tables you play and what youre roi is. I guess 18man or 45man
      6. 45/180man cause players are worse and its mostly c ev so not so much icm
      7. Depends on your bankroll, just give a number since limited is a very relative word
      8. You should stay at your game, therefor you should pick a game with good future value
      Hi DonBartos,

      You mainly play 45s or 180s? 180s has more fish ratio?
      why you think turbo is better than non-turbo? I think turbo, the edge is smaller because the blinds up very fast.

      thanks.
    • IngridN
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      Hi guys,

      I've moved your thread to the appropriate board.

      Ingrid
    • Castle93
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      i play the $1 45 man and $1.50 45 man turbos, their great to grind, massives pools of fish :D
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